[NTLK] Notepad that isn't for NOS

Reilly001os at aol.com Reilly001os at aol.com
Sat Dec 3 02:14:17 EST 2011

Doesn't look like anyone has chimed in so I'll
try to feild a few questions for you Warren.
I'm away from my newt so I'll have to get the
exact package names later but there are two
packages that let you go over 8k in notes, another that
I know of that adds a scroll bar to the right
side and some stationary is available on unna
plus the stationary construction kit to make
what you can't find. (Stationary is the different
note types you can choose when you make
a new note.) The scroller and big notes pkgs
are free and as well as some of the stationary
but I think the construction kit and some of
the larger stationary collections are paid still.
I'll look up the pkg names on my newt later,
 the stationary stuff is on unna. I believe
it even has its own category on there. I played
with stationary when I first got my newt but don't
use or keep loaded any now so I don't have
any specific pkg names there.

Joe Reilly

Warren Ockrassa <wockrassa at gmail.com> wrote:

>The thing that has always interested me the most about Newton is the HWR. The thing that exasperated me the most was the implementation in the notepad. An 8K limit is bad enough. That the device isn't smart enough to auto scroll when the page fills is worse. 
>What I'm wondering is if there is a notepad style package for Newton already. Something that is smart enough to know when I'm filling a page and adjust itself accordingly with a scroll. Something that might even have a scroll bar. Something that works with lefties and righties. And that doesn't cut me off at 8K. 
>If there is no such package, I'm wondering if anyone has had enough experience with NewtonScript to tell me if it's a feasible program to write - because if it's within the capabilities of NS, I might just see whether I can tackle it via DyneTK. 
>What I've got in mind is something like a Moleskine. It lets you interact much as you would with the default notepad, though probably with more customizable backgrounds (grids as well as lines, and of course blank), some gesture toward making the line rules match the leading on the type size, and as mentioned the brains to scroll up and make room when the writing is filling the page. I'm thinking about half to two-thirds full will trigger the scroll, if it's designed correctly. 
>What I'd wanted most from my Newton lo those many years ago was the ability to capture my handwriting and turn it into text, because that was how I was most comfortable in writing. Keyboards felt like an encumbrance. I found the Newton's HWR to be no better. 
>However, the more I mess with my 120, the more I think that the MP model I had in the 90s was probably a 110. I remember most of all the tactile experience - it felt rubbery. I know the 110s had a rubbery surface, and the 120s did not. 
>I also remember that the HWR biffed quite badly with my handwriting, which is most usually block letters. It wasn't until NOS 2 that printed HWR was added to the cursive. My 120 handles my block printing well, far better than my first Newt did all that time back. 
>So I've found a good application for the device, but I don't know if there's software suited to my ideas - and, if not, just how plausible it is to get NS to do it. 
>I've retrieved the Apple docs on NS. (NS reference, programmer guide, etc.) If there are digital versions of other books or documentation for NS programming, and/or examples, I'd love a link. 
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