Re: [NTLK] Getting notes onto a PC

From: Newtopia (MicroSSG_at_Comcast.net)
Date: Tue Mar 16 2004 - 07:16:23 PST


Forget NCU and all of it's headaches (serial) with current Intel hardware.
Mosey yourself down to www.40hz.org and get you some Nitro, Neo and IC/VC.
Then start beaming! There was a recent thread about the timing of the iR
connection, it only took me 15 mins to get the hag of it, and there was
another recent thread about using Eckhart's programs, which I just found and
pasted below...

Depends... if you have IrDA hardware on XP, then yes. Here's the
explanation:

Nitro is the low level IrDA driver. It provides the IrCOMM protocol
necessary to talk to other IrDA devices such as laptops or cell phones.
Blunt is the Bluetooth counterpart. Nitro and Blunt are more or less on the
same level as a plain serial connection or an HTTP connection. So whatever
can be done via serial should be possible to do over IrDA or Bluetooth,
depending a bit on the application support (old applications can be patched,
new applications need very minor modifications).

Since the plain serial or IrDA connection is not enough to transfer data
(compare this to a serial connection between two computers: how do you send
files?), you need some sort of transport protocol. This is where Neo comes
into the picture. Neo implements the OBEX protocol, which is used by almost
all devices which support IrDA or Bluetooth.
OBEX is comparable to FTP and can run over any kind of connection. Neo has
support for IrDA, Bluetooth and TCP/IP built in.

There is also an additional transport besides OBEX: The Fetch URL transport
which is part of NHttpLib. You can use it do download items from a URL into
the Inbox.

Now to the data formats: Since the native data formats are not usable on
other devices, some sort of translation is needed. IC/VC does this part. It
converts data from and to iCal and vCard which are the most common exchange
formats for calendar and contact data. It also can install packages.
Handling items (i.e. installation of packages or importing contacts and
calendar data) is done via the Inbox "Put Away" menu.

So if you have some way of providing the low level connection (IrDA,
Bluetooth, HTTP) on the Newton, you should be able to install packages from
XP. I use the Blunt/Neo/ICVC combination to transfer data between MacOS X
and my Newton (including installing packages).

Eckhart

Regards,

Paul Curtis - USA/OR
MP 120 v2.0/130/2100
Michigan State Spartans - Go Green! Go White!

-----Original Message-----
From: newtontalk-bounce_at_newtontalk.net
[mailto:newtontalk-bounce_at_newtontalk.net] On Behalf Of Graham, David
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 6:51 AM
To: NewtonTalk (E-mail)
Subject: [NTLK] Getting notes onto a PC

Dear all
This may be a daft question, but how do I get a note from my MP2100 onto my
PC? I've written a chunk of a story, which is held in several notes on the
Newt. I went to NCU, chose Export, then it asked for a filename to export
to. I created an empty notepad on the PC, and selected that in NCU. Chose
'export all', but then I just got a -1 connection error.

Is there an easier way? Sadly I don't have net access for surfing during
working hours (curses), but I do get the list emails. If anyone can help,
either on or off-list, please email me!

many thanks
Dave
MP2100, UK

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