Re: [NTLK] [OT] apple does server

From: Chris Ruprecht (chrup_at_earthlink.net)
Date: Thu May 16 2002 - 20:16:27 EDT


The Apple Xserver has nothing which makes me want to get one. The drives
are ATA, where I would only use UltraSCSI-160. RAID is advertised as
'software', I would only use hardware RAID. It lets me connect to and
from anywhere, well, so does my Linux box. The major advantage of the
Motorola PPC processors, the AltiVec unit(s) is not supported by the OS
or the applications, the C compiler they use (GCC) doesn't optimize for
AltiVec code.
MacOS X Server is not up to scratch as far as speed is concerned. The
hardware might be cool, but the OS is definitely not. The lack of
documentation doesn't ease the situation either.
And then there is the lack of commercial server applications. The
database system I can get are all open source (MySQL, PostgreSQL to name
two), but what about Oracle, DB2 or Progress (never heard about that
one, huh?). Great, Photoshop, Office and Instant Messagers - but hey,
those are client applications, they have no business on a server.

If Apple wants to attract high end users for their hardware, they better
start getting some server applications to run on them. Apache alone
doesn't get anybody to buy into their boxes, no matter how good they
look.

Regards,
Chris

On Thursday, May 16, 2002, at 07:54 , Ed Kummel wrote:

>
> it's been said here before, but putting rack ears on a
> computer doesn't make it a server...
> Where's the hot-swappable power-supplies? RAID-5
> Hot-Swappable SCSI drives? Heck...are the drives that
> are in there even SCSI at all? (I would never consider
> a server with anything other than SCSI drives)
> Perhaps in a homongenous environment of pure Macs,
> this would be of some use. But in today's world of
> Blade servers and SANs, I think it's a little bit of
> ancient history! We have been playing with RLX blade
> servers (24 servers in a 3U configuration. So far, we
> have 250 700+Mhz Transmeta CPu in the rack)
> and at under $1000 per blade, a damn sight cheaper
> than $3,000 from Apple (and before someone starts
> moaning, these blade servers are all running
> RedHat...which has everything that the Apple servers
> are advertising)
> Ed
> web/gadget guru
> http://newton.tek-ed.com (download Newton packages)
> http://npds.tek-ed.com (my NPDS server and it's new
> subdomain)
> --- aaron tester <desktop_at_lavalink.com.au> wrote:
>>
>> fancy...
>>
>> http://www.apple.com
>
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