A ha. I had forgotten I could do that.
OK. Tried. No Good. Even put the file on my web site, so I could get it
into my html cache and skip loading Works. I have 9Megs free on my mem
card.
Here is an account of my last attempt
I rebooted with everything off
I activated Heap Saver, SysPatch 0.6b, NewtPack, and Newt's Cape
I opened the html cache, chose the file and Processed it with Save as
Package
It counted up to "506398/752324 P" (Line 3168) and I got a 10061 error.
Any other thoughts before I give up?
Loren
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Weyer" <sweyer@bellatlantic.net>
To: <newtontalk@planetnewton.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 8:36 AM
Subject: Re: NTLK Need Newt's Cape advice.
> Since I just get digests, I didn't respond earlier.
>
> Basically, 'Rat' is correct -- doing a Save as Package (via i:Process)
> directly instead of Display, then File: Save as Package uses much less
heap,
> allows you to process much larger documents. (the disadvantage
> is that you don't get to open and view the book until after it has been
> saved; on the other hand, this is better than not being to open it
entirely).
>
> Even so, (and assuming you've got enough store available for 1) the
source;
> 2) temporary objects during Newt's Cape processing; 3) space for the
> package itself) -- 736K might still be too large. in that case, you might
> look at simplifying/consolidating your HTML a little. a few suggestions
in:
>
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~sweyer/newton/newtscape/docs/setup.htm#Size
> e.g., medium size paragraphs preferable to many one-liners (since there is
> some overhead for each object, even in the more heap efficient & direct
> Process:Save as Package)
>
> I noticed in that doc that Loren, you already hold the record for largest
book
> (Robinson Crusoe) created with Newt's Cape!
>
>
> >From: Loren Finkelstein <Loren@Finkelstein.net>
> >Date: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 2:13 PM
> >
> >>I am trying to make a package out of a 736k HTML Doc.
> >>
> >>I used NCU to put the doc into Works, and now I am trying to open it
with
> >>Newt's Cape, so I can save it as a package.
> >>
> >>The first time I tried, I opened the doc in works and chose the Newt's
Cape
> >>option. I had Dashboard+ running, and I watched my heap go down and
down
> >as
> >>the book was being created, until it just stopped at about 13k free.
The
> >>book was only partly done. (Page 231)
> >>
> >>2nd attempt. I un-mounted my memory card, and remounted it without
> >>activating the packages on it leaving about 363-373k free. I then
> >activated
> >>only Newt's Cape on the card, and from it selected the Works doc I am
> >>working with. This got as far as page 281, approximately half way
through
> >>my document.
> >>
> >>3rd Try. I rebooted without activating any packages - Internal or on
the
> >>card. This puts my free heap into the 400k range. I activated Works
and
> >>Newt's Cape only. This got me to page 354 (Maybe 2/3 of the doc).
> >>
> >>Any thoughts? I could split the book into several smaller books. I
have
> >>done this in the past, but when I had the smaller books created, and I
> >tried
> >>to recombine them back into one (With Newt's Cape) it would die again.
> >>
> >>Do I have to give this up?
> >>
> >>Steve, is there any way to make this work with limited heap space?
> >>
> >>Thanks,
> >>Loren
> >>
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >From: Stainless Steel Rat <ratinox@peorth.gweep.net>
> >
> >* Loren Finkelstein <Loren@Finkelstein.net> on Wed, 31 May 2000
> >| I am trying to make a package out of a 736k HTML Doc.
> >
> >Yow! That's big.
> >
> >| I used NCU to put the doc into Works, and now I am trying to open it
with
> >| Newt's Cape, so I can save it as a package.
> >
> >What works, sometimes, is to have Newt's Cape save directly to a pacakge
> >(Save as Package on the `i' menu). Newt's Cape uses significantly less
> >heap when doing this.
>
>
> >* Loren Finkelstein <Loren@Finkelstein.net> on Wed, 31 May 2000
> >| That is my final goal, but first Newt's Cape has to be able to open the
> >| book. That's where the problem occurs.
> >
> >No, it doesn't. I went through this trying to make a book out of the DVD
> >FAQ. You can go from source to package through Newt's Cape without it
ever
> >displaying content. If you are running out of heap even with everything
> >else frozen, this is probably the only way you are going to make it work.
>
> Steve
> weyer@kagi.com
> NewtDevEnv, Newt's Cape, Sloup, Crypto,...
> http://members.bellatlantic.net/~sweyer/newton/index.htm
> http://www.kagi.com/weyer
>
>
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