Subject:     newtontalk V1 #135
Date:        10/26/99 11:02 PM
Received:    10/27/99 12:11 AM
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newtontalk                     Wed, 27 Oct 1999          Volume 1 : Number 135

In this issue:

        Re: NTLK Help! Clarity 2.0 registration
        Re: NTLK 99K?  Can we reduce the size of Newtontalk?
        Re: NTLK 99K?  Can we reduce the size of Newtontalk?
        mac and pc pkg format again !
        C++ for Newron on PC ?
        Re: NTLK mac and pc pkg format again !
        Re: NTLK Calendar program
        Re: NTLK 99K?  Can we reduce the size of Newtontalk?
        ***  UPS ***
        Re: NTLK NTLK: eMate 300 printing on Epson
        Re: NTLK C++ for Newron on PC ?
        Re: NTLK Calendar program
        Re: NTLK C++ for Newron on PC ?
        Other -Re:  Backup battery problem
        MP2k error -48807
        Re: NTLK C++ for Newron on PC ?
        Other - Ripping
        Re: NTLK Calendar program
        Newton cables
        Re: NTLK Calendar program
        RE: NTLK Calendar program
        Re: NTLK 99K?  Can we reduce the size of Newtontalk?
        Re: NTLK 99K?  Can we reduce the size of Newtontalk?
        Re: NTLK 99K?  Can we reduce the size of Newtontalk?
        Lookout v Outlink
        Re: NTLK C++ for Newron on PC ?
        leverage sync with access
        TeamAgenda: anyone sync with it?
        Gold Tee Golf
        Re: NTLK 99K?  Can we reduce the size of Newtontalk?
        Other - List dad reminiscence
        Re: NTLK MP2k error -48807
        Re: NTLK Other - List dad reminiscence
         Calendar program
        Re: NTLK Help! Clarity 2.0 registration
        URGENT: can't download my e-mail
        Re: NTLK URGENT: can't download my e-mail
        Re: NTLK Watch computer
        Modem
        follow on to Newcomer Comments/Qs
        GroupWise
        Re: NTLK GroupWise
        Re: NTLK Modem
        Project Newtonberg
        Re: NTLK Flash memory card questions...
        Re: NTLK mp3 player for Newton
        Re: NTLK Project Newtonberg
        Re: NTLK HELP!!  MP2K PAP log in script?
        Re- PM100
        Re: NTLK Modem
        Re: NTLK mp3 player for Newton
        Re: NTLK Calendar program
        Re: NTLK Modem
        Re: NTLK Re- PM100
        Re: NTLK Re- PM100
        re: audio adapter supplies
        Re: NTLK Other - Ripping & EMAIL PACKAGES
        Eudora
        Berlitz Interpreter
        Re: NTLK URGENT: can't download my e-mail
        Re: NTLK Modem
        Gradebook software
        Re: NTLK Berlitz Interpreter
        Re: newtontalk V1 #134
        Re: NTLK re: audio adapter supplies
        NTLK re: audio adapter supplies
        Re: NTLK "full scale" browser
        Re: NTLK Eudora
        Re: NTLK "full scale" browser
        What about that FREE IPS
        NTLK re: audio adapter supplies
        =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Qualcomm=20QCP-2700=20=95=20Newton=202100=20=95=20?=
 =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Megahertz=2028.8=20XJA3288?=
        Re: NTLK URGENT: can't download my e-mail


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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 21:46:58 PDT
From: "Gary Moody" <gmoody@hotmail.com>
To: mowabb@mowabb.com
Cc: newtontalk@planetnewton.com
Subject: Re: NTLK Help! Clarity 2.0 registration
Message-ID: <19991026044700.56249.qmail@hotmail.com>

Hi Todd,

Here is the domain registration info:

Registrant:
       New World Software (NEWWORLDSOFT-DOM)
          5401 Chimney Rock #483
          Houston, TX 77081
          USA

          Domain Name: NEWWORLDSOFT.COM

          Administrative Contact:
             Sears, Brant  (BS5585)  bsears@SWBELL.NET
             7137971199x236
          Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
             Hurricane Electric Hostmaster  (HE468-ORG)  hostmaster@HE.NET
             408 282 1540
       Fax- 408 971 3340
          Billing Contact:
             Sears, Brant  (BS5585)  bsears@SWBELL.NET

             7137971199x236

          Record last updated on 23-Jul-1999.
          Record created on 09-Sep-1997.
          Database last updated on 25-Oct-1999 04:26:20 EDT.

          Domain servers in listed order:

          NS1.HE.NET                   216.218.130.2
          NS2.HE.NET                   216.218.131.2
          NS3.HE.NET                   216.218.132.2

Good luck!

Regards,

Gary

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Subject: NTLK Help! Clarity 2.0 registration
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Some weeks ago someone on this mentioned a gradebook program for the Newt
called Clarity. I found it at one of the ftp sites, downloaded, installed,
used, enjoyed, etc. It's not bug free, but it's very cool, nonetheless. The
thing is, I now have lots of data (meaning: grades!) in Clarity, but today
it locked up. My eval copy expired. Fine, I think, I'll go to the Clarity
website and register. Nope. It's gone. No such address anymore.

So does anyone know anything about New World Software or Clarity 1.2? Their
website was at

http://www.newworldsoft.com/

I was there last week and it was working, but now it's gone. Anyone?

Alternately, is there anyway to hack the registration so that I can at least
get my data out of my eMate? Otherwise, I'm going to have some really
unhappy students! Please, anyone, any help would be much appreciated!

-toddc
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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 00:10:19 -0500
From: Jim Witte <witte_j@denison.edu>
To: newtontalk@planetnewton.com
Subject: Re: NTLK 99K?  Can we reduce the size of Newtontalk?
Message-ID: <l03130301b43ae64fc4bf@[208.143.10.160]>

Hi,

  As per the last post:

>It seems you've asked this question before.  Do you just like to
  { 10 lines of message }
  { snip 8 lines of signature }
  { snip 45 lines of message being replyed to }

  Hmm..  If we take the message as the signal, and the quoted text as the
noise, this is at a 1:4.5 S/N ratio..  I'm no audio engineer, but that
doesn't sound too good to my ears..

Jim

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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 01:34:10 -0600
From: "John M. Powell" <jmpowell@mindspring.com>
To: <newtontalk@planetnewton.com>
Subject: Re: NTLK 99K?  Can we reduce the size of Newtontalk?
Message-ID: <000201bf1f84$d74daf80$d33d45cf@jmp>

I AM an audio engineer. Those specs are pretty bad. An old 45 
would sound better than that.

John
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Jim Witte <witte_j@denison.edu>
To: <newtontalk@planetnewton.com>
Sent: Monday, October 25, 1999 11:10 PM
Subject: Re: NTLK 99K? Can we reduce the size of Newtontalk?


> Hi,
> 
>   As per the last post:
> 
> >It seems you've asked this question before.  Do you just like to
>   { 10 lines of message }
>   { snip 8 lines of signature }
>   { snip 45 lines of message being replyed to }
> 
>   Hmm..  If we take the message as the signal, and the quoted text as the
> noise, this is at a 1:4.5 S/N ratio..  I'm no audio engineer, but that
> doesn't sound too good to my ears..
> 
> Jim
> 
> 
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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 07:52:54 +0200
From: valayden <valayden@cybercable.fr>
To: newtontalk@planetnewton.com
Subject: mac and pc pkg format again !
Message-ID: <381541B6.1042FA24@cybercable.fr>

Hi,

I received your answer, but I did use suffit to
unpack the archive.sit, Bur the probleme occurs
during the dowload using NTK (1.6.1) pc->newton.
For example during the dowloading of Mapper 1.1, NTK freeze
at always the same point of the transfert (40 %).
And this with a lot of Prog.
I noticed that these problems occurs more frequently with
programs.ntk which is unpacked from an archive.sit ?
Did you notice the Same Problems ?
(I use a self made cable,and my rom is : 525314

norrih

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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 07:56:36 +0200
From: valayden <valayden@cybercable.fr>
To: newtontalk@planetnewton.com
Subject: C++ for Newron on PC ?
Message-ID: <38154293.297FD328@cybercable.fr>

Hi,

Do you know if there is a C++ developpment platform
on PC for newton. The only programming tool i have is
NTK ? Is there a Gnu library to cross compile sources
on Pc.

Thanx

Norrih

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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 01:53:06 -0600
From: "John M. Powell" <jmpowell@mindspring.com>
To: <valayden@cybercable.fr>, <newtontalk@planetnewton.com>
Subject: Re: NTLK mac and pc pkg format again !
Message-ID: <000201bf1f87$4df04060$d33d45cf@jmp>

Use XPLite. Much more reliable transfer package. 
If they are still around I need to order the full program.
It works really well.

John
----- Original Message ----- 
From: valayden <valayden@cybercable.fr>
To: <newtontalk@planetnewton.com>
Sent: Monday, October 25, 1999 11:52 PM
Subject: NTLK mac and pc pkg format again !


> Hi,
> 
> I received your answer, but I did use suffit to
> unpack the archive.sit, Bur the probleme occurs
> during the dowload using NTK (1.6.1) pc->newton.
> For example during the dowloading of Mapper 1.1, NTK freeze
> at always the same point of the transfert (40 %).
> And this with a lot of Prog.
> I noticed that these problems occurs more frequently with
> programs.ntk which is unpacked from an archive.sit ?
> Did you notice the Same Problems ?
> (I use a self made cable,and my rom is : 525314
> 
> norrih
> 
> 
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Date: 26 Oct 1999 08:54:05 +0200
From: "jon glass" <jonglass@usa.net>
To: newtontalk@planetnewton.com
Subject: Re: NTLK Calendar program
Message-ID: <B43B1DAA-2AB4C@212.160.2.139>

On Tue, Oct 26, 1999 6:02 AM, NewtonTalk
<mailto:newtontalk@planetnewton.com> wrote:
> Subject: Calendar program
> Message-ID: <01bf1f38$e8e69b40$6602a8c0@cpq6300-1>
> 
> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> 
> ------=_NextPart_000_00B7_01BF1EFE.3C87C340
> Content-Type: text/plain;
> 	charset="iso-8859-1"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> 
> I am in the Dates application, and am having a problem using it.  When I
=
> set up a To Do Task, I enter all of the pertinent information, set the =
> date, and then go to set a reminder, but the only option is None.  How =
> do I have it alarm me for this task?  Am I doing something wrong?  Bear =
> in mind, I'm a WinCE to Newton convert (and couldn't be happier).
> 
> -Bondi Blue
> 
> ------=_NextPart_000_00B7_01BF1EFE.3C87C340
> Content-Type: text/html;
> 	charset="iso-8859-1"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> 
You can't set alarms with To-Dos. All you can do is have it show up a day
early (or more) To see what I mean, go a week into the future in your
datebook, and create a new To-do. Your options will be "1 day notice" and
on up. Whatever you select, the todo will show up on that day. It's
basically useless in my book. If you want to attach alarms and specific
times to a todo, you have to purchase a third-party app.

P.S. I like the garbage you add to your emails. Looks very "professional",
and "net savvy". :-)


-Jon Glass
Krakow, Poland
<mailto:jonglass@usa.net>
<mailto:glasshaus5@aol.com>

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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 14:03:09 +0800
From: "Kenneth Wong" <ghoonk@mailworld.net>
To: <newtontalk@planetnewton.com>
Subject: Re: NTLK 99K?  Can we reduce the size of Newtontalk?
Message-ID: <000201bf1f82$543c22e0$74e17ecb@theactiveidea.com>

Ironically, that came from someone whose sig line takes up almost as much
space as his rant. ;)


Kenneth Wong
Vice President
The Active Idea Company Private Limited


----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Bontrager <thebons@bellsouth.net>
To: <newtontalk@planetnewton.com>
Sent: Monday, October 25, 1999 11:03 PM
Subject: Re: NTLK 99K? Can we reduce the size of Newtontalk?


> It seems you've asked this question before.  Do you just like to
> stir up trouble?  Can you not imagine that this is a NEWTON list,
> about NEWTONS and for NEWTONS, and some people actually like to
> read it ON their NEWTON!  I'm sure you have no problem reading
> this list (I would hope) using your iMac running at 233MHz with
> 64MB of RAM and a 56k modem.  By try it on a MP130 with less than
> 100k of discressionary storage left and a 14.4 modem.  The least
> you can do is be considerate to the people for whom this list was
> created.
>
>
>  ============================================================
> | Scott Bontrager     <IXOYE><      thebons@bellsouth.net    |
> |------------------------------------------------------------|
> | At the heart of every problem is a problem of the heart!   |
> |------------------------------------------------------------|
> | Sent from a PowerBook 5300cs (Still waiting for my iBook!) |
>  ============================================================

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Date: 26 Oct 1999 09:50 +0200
From: Jakob Peterh=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=E4nsel?= <info@dnug.dk>
To: NewtonTalk  <newtontalk@planetnewton.com>
Subject: ***  UPS ***
Message-ID: <auto-000000489235@bysted.dk>

Ahhhhhh, hmmmmm  ......   ups.

Sorry, I forgot to remove a TRACE (ie. debug) command in Newton Versions la=
st night just before leaving work...

It's removed, so it should be back online...  

(Waiter, the next virtual round of beer is on my bill....  ;-)

Also, we reasonly added a Cisco PIX firewall to our system, and that sort o=
f left the Sherlock search unusable. This should have been fixed now, so Sh=
erlock Searching is back in working order too. (hurray!)

Enjoy!


Jakob Peterh=E4nsel
President, Danish Newton User Group [DNUG]

   Still listing new releases - every week!

DNUG:            http://www.dnug.dk/
Newton Versions: http://www.dnug.dk/versions/

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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 05:13:53 -0400
From: "William  Hills" <WFHILLS@worldnet.att.net>
To: <newtontalk@planetnewton.com>
Subject: Re: NTLK NTLK: eMate 300 printing on Epson
Message-ID: <006201bf1f92$f6966180$78654e0c@preferred-user>

You say you print to an Epson Stylus Color regularly,  Do you do this with
or without
the printer adapter cable for the Newton.  I've only been able to do it with
the printer
adapter cable.  I've not been able to do it through the cable attached to
Apple port on
my Epson Stylus 600.  !!!!  It would simplify the number of cables on my
desk.

Thanks...Bill
-----Original Message-----
From: Douglas Fuss <douglas.fuss.pc.86@aya.yale.edu>
To: newtontalk@planetnewton.com <newtontalk@planetnewton.com>
Date: Monday, October 25, 1999 9:02 PM
Subject: Re: NTLK NTLK: eMate 300 printing on Epson

>I print from my MP2100 to an Epson Stylus Color regularly.
>
>Good luck, Doug
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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 99 11:57:13 +0200
From: Michael J. Hu=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=dfmann?= <michael.hu@macup.com>
To: <newtontalk@planetnewton.com>
Subject: Re: NTLK C++ for Newron on PC ?
Message-ID: <1271190217-187200359@mail.macup.com>

valayden (valayden@cybercable.fr) wrote:

> Do you know if there is a C++ developpment platform
> on PC for newton. The only programming tool i have is
> NTK ?

Norrih,

yes, NTK is the way to go. C++ is only used for low level stuff anyway, 
even for Newton development on the Mac. Also, NewtonScript is a much 
nicer OOP language than C++.

Michael J. Hussmann

Redaktion Mac MAGAZIN & MACeasy
MACup Verlag GmbH
Leverkusenstrasse 54 VII
D-22761 Hamburg
Germany

E-Mail: michael.hu@macmagazin.de

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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 06:55:33 -0400
From: mguzzo@harmac.com
To: newtontalk@planetnewton.com
Message-ID: <85256816.003C04D6.00@notes.harmac.com>

J. Matthew Roegner <rothesay@sprynet.com> wrote

> I have a MP130 which can't seem to keep track of the right time and date.
> Evidently, it keeps time slower as after a few hours the clock will be
ten
> to fifteen minutes slow, and after a few weeks it is days behind.  Over
time
> it just gets further and further behind.  Has anyone ever seen this in a
> Newton?  I have several other Newtons, but I haven't seen or heard of
this
> behavior before.

An Apple Tech Note (#13054) describes how the clock can lose time after
each reset:
<TECHNOTE>
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----
TOPIC
When I reset my Newton MessagePad, the internal clock loses time. What
causes this?
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----
DISCUSSION

Approximately once every 5 minutes, the Newton MessagePad saves the time on
its clock to a location in memory. When you reset the Newton, its clock is
reset to the last saved time. The result is that the clock can lose up to 5
minutes each time you reset your Newton.

Your Newton MessagePad doesn't save the time while it is asleep, so
resetting your Newton when it is asleep could result in a greater than 5
minute time loss. We recommend you wake up your Newton before resetting it.
</TECHNOTE>

MG

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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 05:21:54 -0700
From: andyh <ahalvor@yahoo.com>
To: Newton Talk <newtontalk@planetnewton.com>
Subject: Re: NTLK Calendar program
Message-ID: <B43AEAF2.48D4%ahalvor@yahoo.com>

on 10/25/99 23:54, jon glass wrote:

> P.S. I like the garbage you add to your emails. Looks very "professional",
> and "net savvy". :-)

Actually that is your email app that's makes him look so "net savvy".

/andyh
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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 09:19:14 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jeff Mitchell <skeezix@skeleton.org>
To: newtontalk@planetnewton.com
Subject: Re: NTLK C++ for Newron on PC ?
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.9910260918310.24414-100000@icomm.ca>

On Tue, 26 Oct 1999, Michael J. Hu[ISO-8859-1] =DFmann wrote:

> yes, NTK is the way to go. C++ is only used for low level stuff anyway,=
=20
> even for Newton development on the Mac. Also, NewtonScript is a much=20
> nicer OOP language than C++.

=09... for some reasons, but not for others. Considering C is a
subset of C++, and a lot more code int he world is written in C and C++
that NS, it would have its uses :P (old newton anxiety of mine, never mind
:P)

=09=09jeff

--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_

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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 15:27:20 +0200
From: "Gruendel, Frank 3837 PPE-WT" <Frank.Gruendel@de.heidelberg.com>
To: "Newtontalk (E-mail)" <newtontalk@planetnewton.com>
Subject: Other -Re:  Backup battery problem
Message-ID: <FB7157D46E3AD311B33D00A0C9CF80AD74E62E@hdkexmbx01.ger05.heidelberg.com>

>Recently, I continually got the 
>message that the 'Backup battery is dead or missing' and warning of
potential 
>data loss...

From what you describe, I'd assume the newt doesn't recognize the backup
battery at all (as it says "dead or missing" instead of "running low" or
so).
As you said you switched the battery for a new one (which hopefully isn't
dead, too) this probably means that either the battery contacts of the Newt
are not doing their job (corroded or bent?), that one or both of them
have lost their connection to the main board or that there's a more severe
hardware damage in you newt.
Try measuring the new batt's voltage, if it is around 3 volts, either the 
contacts are rotten or the newt has an internal hardware fault.
From the description, I don't think Nick's BattMon would help much. This
app uses a ROM function to get the current battery voltage, if this returned
a valid voltage, the newt would have recognized the batt already (which 
obviously it doesn't).

Frank

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 15:05:44 +0200
From: Yves SALAUN <ysalaun@cartesis.com>
To: newtontalk@planetnewton.com
Subject: MP2k error -48807
Message-ID: <E088A19A84E4D211B1A400805F715E8A94AFCC@ARCHIBALD>

Hi,

When I double-click to have the Newton Keyboard,
my mp2k sends me : "Sorry, .... (-48807)"

I can't use the keyboard.

	what's wrong ?

		thanks in advance.

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 26 Oct 99 16:01:14 +0200
From: Michael J. Hu=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=dfmann?= <michael.hu@macup.com>
To: <newtontalk@planetnewton.com>
Subject: Re: NTLK C++ for Newron on PC ?
Message-ID: <1271175575-188080943@mail.macup.com>

Jeff Mitchell (skeezix@skeleton.org) wrote:

> Considering C is a
> subset of C++, and a lot more code int he world is written in C and C++
> that NS, it would have its uses :P (old newton anxiety of mine, never mind
> :P)

True, but porting C code to the Newton is a non-trivial task. I guess it 
wouldn't take much more time rewriting it from scratch in NewtonScript. 
It may be different for computationally intensive code (number crunching 
and such) though.

Michael J. Hussmann

Redaktion Mac MAGAZIN & MACeasy
MACup Verlag GmbH
Leverkusenstrasse 54 VII
D-22761 Hamburg
Germany

E-Mail: michael.hu@macmagazin.de

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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 16:13:21 +0200
From: "Gruendel, Frank 3837 PPE-WT" <Frank.Gruendel@de.heidelberg.com>
To: "Newtontalk (E-mail)" <newtontalk@planetnewton.com>
Subject: Other - Ripping
Message-ID: <FB7157D46E3AD311B33D00A0C9CF80AD74E636@hdkexmbx01.ger05.heidelberg.com>

>I HAVE NOT COLLECTED THE SOFTWARE FROM OTHER PEOPLES SITES! And once again,
>IT'S NOT 28,647. IT WAS A TYPE ERROR! It is 2,647! And yes I collected them
>over years, not just in several days dl from newton archive sites!!! I am
not
>that cheap.

Folks, let me suggest to switch our default to "this person's not a
thief"...

Even if I took only those packages I've assembled seperately over the last
years from many, many sources, I'd easily reach a number larger than 100.
If I'd add all the packages I loaded because I was on some site anyway,
thinking they might be useful eventually, the number would be considerably
higher than that. 
If I threw in all the packages I have on CD's that I legally bought from 
software vendors (by that I mean shareware/freeware CD's, not the stuff I 
registered), I'm pretty sure I could beat 2,647 packages easily. Even if
I threw in only those packages whose author's explicitly authorize this kind

of distribution.

None of the above does automatically make me a "ripper". 

I can, of course, understand Kenneth's disappointment, given his
experiences.
It's just that I think we should try, although maybe we've been meeting
nothing
but a*s*s*h*o*l*e*s yesterday, not to think that all the people we come
across
today fit in the same template.

My experience is there are less dishonest people than honest ones, so for me
it's pretty obvious how the default should be. Of course, your mileage may
vary.

Best

Frank

PS I do still wonder, however, what you mean by "cleared". May I politely
suggest an explanation? People on this list have a history of getting
upset if they notice a smell of piracy, no matter how faint...

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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 10:20:01 -0400
From: "Laurent Daudelin" <laurent_daudelin@fanniemae.com>
To: <newtontalk@planetnewton.com>
Subject: Re: NTLK Calendar program
Message-ID: <FK7RTD00.BAM@psysadm-em01.fanniemae.com>

"Jared Williams" <jwilliam@calpaksystems.com> wrote:
>I am in the Dates application, and am having a problem using it.  When I
set up a To Do Task, I enter all of the pertinent information, set the
date, and then go to set a reminder, but the only option is None.  How do I
have it alarm me for this task?  Am I doing something wrong?  Bear in mind,
I'm a WinCE to Newton convert (and couldn't be happier).
>
>-Bondi Blue
>
You can't. That's a 'built-in' limitation: you can't have a To-Do task with
a reminder.

-Laurent.

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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 16:27:08 +0200
From: "Gruendel, Frank 3837 PPE-WT" <Frank.Gruendel@de.heidelberg.com>
To: "Newtontalk (E-mail)" <newtontalk@planetnewton.com>
Subject: Newton cables
Message-ID: <FB7157D46E3AD311B33D00A0C9CF80AD74E63B@hdkexmbx01.ger05.heidelberg.com>

Christian said...

>... and where can I find informations on how to make a link cable
> on my own?

Marco answered...

>You might even buy a cable in an Apple shop. A normal modem cable should
>do the job. May be you need a null modem in order to cross Tx with Rx.

If you want to connect your newton to a Mac, a simple Mac printer cable
will do. If, however, you want to connect it to a PC, a standard modem
cable, i. e. the one with the 8 pin Mac connector on one side and a 9 
or 15 pin SubD connector on the other side will not do the trick. I've
tried that, it didn't work. The wiring was wrong. Nullmodem adapter
didn't do the trick, either.

>Good luck with the Mini8 connector. It needs a tiny soldering iron tip
>and a silent hand.

I'd never try to solder a Mini8 connector. Either I'd try to get some 
kind of female solderable connectors that fit on the internal soldering
posts of the Mini8 connector, or I'd buy myself a Mac printer cable and
two SubD (9 and 15 pin) connectors, cut the Mac cable in the middle and
solder the connectors on. SubD connectors can be easily soldered, and
that way I'd have two cables for (approximately) the price of one Mac
printer cable (SubD connectors cost next to nothing these days).
One of the two will fit on any pc com port you might come across.

Frank 

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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 07:25:44 -0700
From: "Jared Williams" <actually@ix.netcom.com>
To: <newtontalk@planetnewton.com>
Subject: Re: NTLK Calendar program
Message-ID: <007001bf1fbd$fde3ada0$0502a8c0@jared>

:
>
>> P.S. I like the garbage you add to your emails. Looks very
"professional",
>> and "net savvy". :-)
>
>Actually that is your email app that's makes him look so "net savvy".
>
>/andyh
>--
>ahalvor@yahoo.com
>http://www.andrewhalvorsen.com/           fax/voicemail: 415.704.3297
>


Yeah...I turned off HTML so that it would just be plain text...it's got to
be on the other guys end...I'm just using OE 5.

-Bondi Blue

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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 10:37:20 -0400
From: "Filmer, Paul E" <pfilmer@nsf.gov>
To: "'newtontalk@planetnewton.com'" <newtontalk@planetnewton.com>
Subject: RE: NTLK Calendar program
Message-ID: <CB5545D62DD6D2119E6300A0C9D60E799310F3@nsfmail04.nsf.gov>

Not having alarms on ToDos is another reason to actually schedule a
'meeting' to set aside time to do a task, rather than carrying it from day
to day.  This way, it's also easier to say 'no' to someone who wants to
waste your time.  "I'm sorry, I'm busy during that time" will ensure you
actually DO the ToDo!

HTH

Paul

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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 09:29:17 -0500
From: "Scott Bontrager" <thebons@bellsouth.net>
To: newtontalk@planetnewton.com
Subject: Re: NTLK 99K?  Can we reduce the size of Newtontalk?
Message-ID: <199910261441.KAA11007@mail3.lig.bellsouth.net>

Ya, but was the point valid?  Isn't it better to make a lame 
attempt at keeping the focus of the list on track vs. saying
nothing?

 ============================================================
| Scott Bontrager     <IXOYE><      thebons@bellsouth.net    |
|------------------------------------------------------------|
| At the heart of every problem is a problem of the heart!   |
|------------------------------------------------------------|
| Sent from a PowerBook 5300cs (Still waiting for my iBook!) |
 ============================================================


----------
>From: Jim Witte <witte_j@denison.edu>

> Hmm..  If we take the message as the signal, and the quoted text as the
> noise, this is at a 1:4.5 S/N ratio..  I'm no audio engineer, but that
> doesn't sound too good to my ears..

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 09:32:09 -0500
From: "Scott Bontrager" <thebons@bellsouth.net>
To: newtontalk@planetnewton.com
Subject: Re: NTLK 99K?  Can we reduce the size of Newtontalk?
Message-ID: <199910261442.KAA11256@mail3.lig.bellsouth.net>

Hmmmmm.  At least I'm in good company :)

> Ironically, that came from someone whose sig line takes up almost as
> much space as his rant. ;)
>
>
> Kenneth Wong
> Vice President
> The Active Idea Company Private Limited

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 09:39:58 -0500
From: "Scott Bontrager" <thebons@bellsouth.net>
To: newtontalk@planetnewton.com
Subject: Re: NTLK 99K?  Can we reduce the size of Newtontalk?
Message-ID: <199910261442.KAA11600@mail3.lig.bellsouth.net>

I knew I was going to catch a lot of flak for my message the 
second after I hit the send button (too bad there isn't an
undo-send feature), but (thankfully!) it hasn't been as bad as I
would have expected.

BTW: I think your SNR was MUCH WORSE (2 lines of message text, 1
line signature, 36 lines quoted text) than mine ;)

Scott

----------
>From: "John M. Powell" <jmpowell@mindspring.com>

> I AM an audio engineer. Those specs are pretty bad. An old 45
> would sound better than that.

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 09:44:09 -0500
From: James Pelton <j-pelton@nwu.edu>
To: newtontalk@planetnewton.com
Subject: Lookout v Outlink
Message-ID: <3815BE39.C996A958@nwu.edu>

Ignoring for the moment that lookout can't be registered, if anyone has
used both outlink and lookout, I'd be interested in what you think are
their relative strengths and weaknesses.

james pelton

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 10:52:44 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jeff Mitchell <skeezix@skeleton.org>
To: newtontalk@planetnewton.com
Subject: Re: NTLK C++ for Newron on PC ?
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.9910261049310.24414-100000@icomm.ca>

On Tue, 26 Oct 1999, Michael J. Hu[ISO-8859-1] =DFmann wrote:

> > Considering C is a
> > subset of C++, and a lot more code int he world is written in C and C++
> > that NS, it would have its uses :P (old newton anxiety of mine, never m=
ind
> > :P)
>=20
> True, but porting C code to the Newton is a non-trivial task. I guess it=
=20
> wouldn't take much more time rewriting it from scratch in NewtonScript.=
=20

=09Depends on the size and complexity. I ported a 20000 line piece of
C code that was very carefully written to the newton in about half an
hour. You can't beat porting.

=09I had a bunch of code written by an emitter I wrote, and changed
it to write out newton-happy C code, and newton-script. It was about 20
times slower in NS (rthough it wasn't pretty NS obviously.. still, NS is
inherently slow for the obvious reasons).

=09Obviously NS is the way to go for a lot of things, and the only
way to go for others, but newt ASM and C can't be beat for a lot of things
as well, and porting is a big deal. I just don't have time to rewrite a
billion of my useful utilities from scratch.. but if I an port them, I
will.

> It may be different for computationally intensive code (number crunching=
=20
> and such) though.

=09Yeah, and graphics.. both of which I do a lot of.

=09(Project? I wrote a cinematronics arcade machine emulator, and
ported it to the newton, so I could play Ripoff and Tail Gunner. I never
finished the input section though, so you can only watch it. And yeah, I
know your curious now, so I'll have to dig up the package, but it'll take
awhile, and its a few hundred K for the MP2k)

=09=09jeff

--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_

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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 09:55:34 -0500
From: James Pelton <j-pelton@nwu.edu>
To: newtontalk@planetnewton.com
Subject: leverage sync with access
Message-ID: <3815C0E6.2AB4380E@nwu.edu>

Does anyone use the Leverage database program to sync with Access?

James Pelton

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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 09:58:55 -0500
From: James Pelton <j-pelton@nwu.edu>
To: newtontalk@planetnewton.com
Subject: TeamAgenda: anyone sync with it?
Message-ID: <3815C1AF.E5FE3F1B@nwu.edu>

Does anyone sync their newton to it?

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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 08:05:42 PDT
From: "Gavin Hall" <gavinhall@hotmail.com>
To: newtontalk@planetnewton.com
Subject: Gold Tee Golf
Message-ID: <19991026150542.84478.qmail@hotmail.com>

Hi there, anyone out there have a new or old copy of Gold Tee Golf that 
they'd like to sell off?
I'm in Singapore, but I'd happily pay for the additional airfare.
Gavin
gavinh@mtv-asia.com

______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 11:29:15 -0600
From: "John M. Powell" <jmpowell@mindspring.com>
To: <newtontalk@planetnewton.com>
Subject: Re: NTLK 99K?  Can we reduce the size of Newtontalk?
Message-ID: <000201bf1fd7$c615a440$6a3f45cf@jmp>

Hey! ;o)

> BTW: I think your SNR was MUCH WORSE (2 lines of message text, 1
> line signature, 36 lines quoted text) than mine ;)
> Scott

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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 17:41:50 +0200
From: "Gruendel, Frank 3837 PPE-WT" <Frank.Gruendel@de.heidelberg.com>
To: "Newtontalk (E-mail)" <newtontalk@planetnewton.com>
Subject: Other - List dad reminiscence
Message-ID: <FB7157D46E3AD311B33D00A0C9CF80AD74E640@hdkexmbx01.ger05.heidelberg.com>

>So, I think that the list is a little bit out of hands right
>now... which is a bit sad, since we were used to a much better service from
>the previous list dad, Sean (hey Sean, you still around?).

Although I agree that the list was easier to use while in Sean's hands, let
me politely remark that unless we find someone who is both willing and 
capable to take over, we should thank Laura on our knees (well, figuratively
speaking ;-))  ) that she took over the list when Sean had to stop being
list dad.
I'm pretty sure that if she hadn't done that NewtonTalk would be something
we'd
look back to with a feeling of kind reminiscence, and I very much prefer the

list as it is now to no list at all.
Of course there are things that could be better, foremost the fact that
digests
are too big. But I'm pretty sure that if Laura doesn't fix this, there is
some
good reason behind it. For me, a very good reason is, among others, that she
might
not have the time to change this and that she has, after all, a private
life, too.
Also, let me politely remind everyone here that it would be easily possible
to cut 
each digest size in half, if not less, if list members would stop
quoting text chunks the size of Hemingway short stories. Or if they would
stop
using signatures that, size-wise, resemble a Wilhelm Bush poem.
Not that I think this plea will have any major effect (yes, Myc, I'm aware
there
are exceptions, but what is one out of way too many...)

Kindly

Frank

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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 12:36:01 -0400
From: "Laurent Daudelin" <laurent_daudelin@fanniemae.com>
To: <newtontalk@planetnewton.com>
Subject: Re: NTLK MP2k error -48807
Message-ID: <3815D871.6C27775E@fanniemae.com>

Yves SALAUN wrote:

> Hi,
>
> When I double-click to have the Newton Keyboard,
> my mp2k sends me : "Sorry, .... (-48807)"
>
> I can't use the keyboard.
>
>         what's wrong ?
>

-48807: undefined variable, according to the Programming Reference
manual. Where is this happening? Which package? This is a bit
surprising, since the keyboards are all ROM based, they can't be
modified, and if there was a bug in one of them, we would all know
already...

--
-Laurent.
=====================================================================
Laurent Daudelin
Developer, Object Factory, Substrate                       Fannie Mae
Phone: 703-833-4266             mailto:Laurent_Daudelin@fanniemae.com
Fax:   703-833-7555                           Usual disclaimers apply

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 12:41:12 -0400
From: "Laurent Daudelin" <laurent_daudelin@fanniemae.com>
To: <newtontalk@planetnewton.com>
Subject: Re: NTLK Other - List dad reminiscence
Message-ID: <3815D9A7.422EFAE1@fanniemae.com>

Frank,

I entirely agree with you. I'm definitely appreciative of the nice work Laura
has put to keep the list alive. It's just that I've been bothered by odd things
that I could never fix. So, my comments were not directed at anybody in
particular, just that there are a couple of things that don't work as you would
expect.

--
-Laurent.
=====================================================================
Laurent Daudelin
Developer, Object Factory, Substrate                       Fannie Mae
Phone: 703-833-4266             mailto:Laurent_Daudelin@fanniemae.com
Fax:   703-833-7555                           Usual disclaimers apply

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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 09:40:35 -0700
From: "Jared Williams" <actually@ix.netcom.com>
To: <newtontalk@planetnewton.com>
Subject:  Calendar program
Message-ID: <007f01bf1fd0$d4e80fa0$0502a8c0@jared>

>to day.  This way, it's also easier to say 'no' to someone who wants to
>waste your time.  "I'm sorry, I'm busy during that time" will ensure you
>actually DO the ToDo!
>Paul
>


Point well taken!  : )

-Bondi Blue

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 09:54:00 -0700
From: Dan Rowley <danlist@newts.com>
To: <newtontalk@planetnewton.com>
Subject: Re: NTLK Help! Clarity 2.0 registration
Message-ID: <B43B2AB7.6789%danlist@newts.com>

on 10/25/99 5:16 PM, Jared Williams at jwilliam@calpaksystems.com wrote:

> Here is New World Software's address:
> 
> New World Software
> 5401 Chimney Rock #483
> Houston, TX 77081
> USA
> 
    I know they're no longer in Houston, so allow time for the mail to
forward...

Dan

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 01:10:16 +0800
From: cheongsoon@pacific.net.sg
To: newtontalk@planetnewton.com
Subject: URGENT: can't download my e-mail
Message-ID: <l03130301b43b8d912249@[210.24.79.107]>

Hello everyone

I'm not sure whether I'm using the URGENT tag correctly, but I'm getting
pretty desperate and would welcome some help, so please bear with me :)

I'm new to the list and have a problem that I can't solve, mainly
downloading and sending my e-mail. I have a Messagepad 2100 and am using
the Enroute Internet software.

I've had no problems downloading and sending my e-mails in the past. I live
in Singapore and have gotten it to work here. I've also used it in China
and a friend has borrowed my machine to use it in America. It worked fine
in both places, using the local ISP's roaming facility. After my friend's
trip to America, I restored my settings and it worked fine back home. But
soon after, I found I could no longer connect to the Internet.

It's not a problem with my modem, which I tested on a laptop. Not a problem
with my Internet settings, which I've checked many times. Also, I now am
not able to fax too. When I try to download/send e-mail. the program starts
to dial the number, then I get this error message:

iNet Mail
Internet error - 16022

When I try to fax a document, the error message reads:

Faxing to (so and so) failed. A communications problem occured. Connection
may have been dropped.


It's not my phone line too, coz I get the same thing using other phones.
And I tried to delete the Enroute Internet program and restore it from my
Mac. Same problem exists.

Help. am leaving for USA in early Nov and I would love to get this problem
tackled (if at all possible) by then.

Apart from this,  I love my Newton, esp how it has learnt to recognise my
handwriting after all these years. Sigh, I'm trying to use it as long as
possible and would hate to move on to another PDA that allows me to
send/receive e-mail.

thanks in advance
cheongsoon

p.s. my office has a new HP Laserjet 4050 printer, but I can't beam to it.
HP doesn't seem to have drivers for the Newton for this printer on its
website. Is this also a lost cause?

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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 19:39:43 +0200
From: Albrecht Tiefenbacher <tiefenbacher@irrelevant.de>
To: newtontalk@planetnewton.com
Subject: Re: NTLK URGENT: can't download my e-mail
Message-ID: <3815E75E.4E2BC2D9@irrelevant.de>

cheongsoon@pacific.net.sg wrote:
> 
> iNet Mail
> Internet error - 16022
> 
i had the same -16022 message a few days ago and fixed it with a little
help from our list:
goto prefs. choose modem settings. specify which pc-card slot you have
the modem in. (there is a bug in NIE 2.0 keeping it from finding the
modem itself.)
a.t.

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 12:23:20 -0700
From: "Neal Sofge" <neal_sofge@rand.org>
To: newtontalk@planetnewton.com
Subject: Re: NTLK Watch computer
Message-ID: <199910261927.MAA14714@smmail.rand.org>

According to the specs, it's got ASK IR support.  I wonder if you 
could beam data from the Newton...

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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 12:50:35 -0700
From: "Jared Williams" <jwilliam@calpaksystems.com>
To: <newtontalk@planetnewton.com>
Subject: Modem
Message-ID: <01bf1feb$5ecd6d40$6602a8c0@cpq6300-1>

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

------=_NextPart_000_001D_01BF1FB0.B26E9540
Content-Type: text/plain;
	charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Okay, I've given up on the modem card I have...anybody have any =
suggestions on which modem card I should purchase for my Messagepad 130 =
that works at 56kbps?  Also, low power consumption, X-Jack and goodies =
like that are always preferred.

-Bondi Blue

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	charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN">
<HTML>
<HEAD>

<META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 =
http-equiv=3DContent-Type>
<META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.71.2016.0"' name=3DGENERATOR>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Okay, I've given up on the modem =
card I=20
have...anybody have any suggestions on which modem card I should =
purchase for my=20
Messagepad 130 that works at 56kbps?&nbsp; Also, low power consumption, =
X-Jack=20
and goodies like that are always preferred.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>-Bondi =
Blue</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 20:57 GMT
From: Eric Byrne Electrical <ericbyrne@tinet.ie>
To: Planet Newton <newtontalk@planetnewton.com>
Subject: follow on to Newcomer Comments/Qs
Message-ID: <E11gCii-0007kH-00@kang.tinet.ie>

Hello again Newton talk people,
further to a recent e-mail of mine (Newcomer Comments/ Questions), I recieved a number of replies asking about the accelerator board and where it could be purchased.
Although it was discussed recently, for the benefit of those who missed it, here goes :-
The accelerator board is available from
www.pixsolutions.com in Germany, basically it increases the clock speed to about 223 mhz.
The disadvantages are that sounds will be played at a faster speed, and the serial port will not work at the higher speed. However, by holding down the power switch for a couple of seconds, it reverts back to its normal (162mhz) speed until next switched off and on again.
I have mine fitted for 3 weeks now and it makes a very good speed difference. However it is very tricky to fit oneself so it should really be sent to pixsolutions for this work (they also do the 2000 to 2100 upgrade)
Important point, when contacting Oliver Harms (Mr. pixsolutions!) don't use the web site            e-mail address, use oharms@pixsolution.com or you won't get anywhere!
Incidentally thanks to Lui for his comments and possible source on backlight elements, I will let the list know if I suceed in sourcing them.
Best Wishes,
Eric Byrne

p.s. regarding my Web Browser rants,
what a pity Nethopper 4.0 was cancelled in Alpha stage because of the Newtons demise.
Apparantly it supported tables, frames, jpeg's etc! Spyglass, who own Nethopper now, say on their web site that they will develop it further for a fee! Maybe they will donate the source code or just give it away! Just dreaming...

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 16:16:59 EDT
From: RWelch5050@aol.com
To: newtontalk@planetnewton.com
Subject: GroupWise
Message-ID: <0.424e9857.2547663b@aol.com>

Has anyone synched their Newton with Groupwise running on a Novell network 
(of pcs only)?  Thanks.

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 13:21:04 -0700
From: "Jared Williams" <jwilliam@calpaksystems.com>
To: <newtontalk@planetnewton.com>
Subject: Re: NTLK GroupWise
Message-ID: <01bf1fef$a0f29340$6602a8c0@cpq6300-1>

I think some other guy asked that recently and the group hasn't had a
response...would be kind of interesting to know though...

-Bondi Blue


>Has anyone synched their Newton with Groupwise running on a Novell network
>(of pcs only)?  Thanks.

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 13:30:39 -0700
From: Martin Joseph <mjoecups@aa.net>
To: newtontalk@planetnewton.com
Subject: Re: NTLK Modem
Message-ID: <38160F6F.2E7DBEF7@aa.net>

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56k gets you nothing.

Stick with a meghertz 33.6 with xjack. I have two of these,  one is
labeled Dell (hehe).

They work perfectly in my 120, emate and 2000.

This list is very great,  but I wish it would stick more to nuts and
bolts and have less historical second guessing.

Thanks,
Marty



Jared Williams wrote:

>  Okay, I've given up on the modem card I have...anybody have any
> suggestions on which modem card I should purchase for my Messagepad
> 130 that works at 56kbps?  Also, low power consumption, X-Jack and
> goodies like that are always preferred. -Bondi Blue

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56k gets you nothing.
<p>Stick with a meghertz 33.6 with xjack. I have two of these,&nbsp; one
is labeled Dell (hehe).
<p>They work perfectly in my 120, emate and 2000.
<p>This list is very great,&nbsp; but I wish it would stick more to nuts
and bolts and have less historical second guessing.
<p>Thanks,
<br>Marty
<br>&nbsp;
<br>&nbsp;
<p>Jared Williams wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>&nbsp;<font color="#000000"><font size=-1>Okay, I've
given up on the modem card I have...anybody have any suggestions on which
modem card I should purchase for my Messagepad 130 that works at 56kbps?&nbsp;
Also, low power consumption, X-Jack and goodies like that are always preferred.</font></font>&nbsp;<font color="#000000"><font size=-1>-Bondi
Blue</font></font></blockquote>

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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 15:37:18 -0500
From: Leland Jory <Ljory@kortexcomputer.com>
To: "'newtontalk@planetnewton.com'" <newtontalk@planetnewton.com>
Subject: Project Newtonberg
Message-ID: <2D8DAA3A006ED311A5CB00508B2C97117DA1@SM_MAIL>

Does anyone know what happened to Project Newtonberg? I was there a few
months ago (before I got my MP130), but now I can't find it anywhere. Any
help would be appreciated.

Regards,

Leland Jory

"Newton users swear by their PDAs. WinCE users swear _at_ their PDAs" -
Anonymous

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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 13:42:00 -0700
From: Tom Swell <swell@rohan.sdsu.edu>
To: newtontalk@planetnewton.com
Subject: Re: NTLK Flash memory card questions...
Message-ID: <38161212.4D5680DB@rohan.sdsu.edu>

Given the limitations of a memory card's read/write cycles (about
100,000?), what does this mean to Newton users?

I imagine that most of the contents of a RAM card don't change much.
Some parts probably change quite often, however. So, if you store a
package on the card- it stays in one place for years, but the soup it
creates may change daily or even hourly. A program like Clock, which
updates the display every second, could also be making a change in the
soup; and if the soup it uses is on the card, it could reach 100,000
changes quite quickly. It would be quite easy to write a program that
would read, write and erase every memory address on the card 100K
times in just a few seconds.

Thus, depending on the software you use, you might get years of use
from a RAM card, or only weeks. And there's no way of knowing what all
your software is doing in there!

Perhaps it is best to store things that don't change much on the card
(packages, Newtbooks, etc) and your data (soup stuff) in the built-in
RAM (and back it up frequently).

Does this seem reasonable to the experts out there?
-- 
       Tom Swell
    Swell Solutions
      San Diego

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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 13:47:22 -0700
From: Tom Swell <swell@rohan.sdsu.edu>
To: newtontalk@planetnewton.com
Subject: Re: NTLK mp3 player for Newton
Message-ID: <38161354.18622BAA@rohan.sdsu.edu>

on 10/25/99 14:47, Neil Glick wrote:
> Hi, 
> I'm looking for an mp3 player for the Newton.  Is
> there an existing program, or one in the works?


Most of my mp3 files are many megabytes. A pop song might be 5 megs, a
concerto might be 200 megabytes. Are you sure you have room for all
that in your Newton? Consider MOD files, which you CAN play and are
usually much smaller. You will find them mentioned here often if you
take the time to get to know us.

blessings,
-- 
       Tom Swell
    Swell Solutions

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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 16:51:41 EDT
From: Sheercliff@aol.com
To: newtontalk@planetnewton.com
Subject: Re: NTLK Project Newtonberg
Message-ID: <0.a3d319bf.25476e5d@aol.com>

In a message dated 99-10-26 16:38:24 EDT, Leland Jory writes:

> Does anyone know what happened to Project Newtonberg? I was there a few
>  months ago (before I got my MP130), but now I can't find it anywhere. Any
>  help would be appreciated.

What URL? The site changed hands a while back. This is the most recent 
address I have, but I'm currently getting a "no response from server" message:

<http://www.tikimedia.com/users/pn/>

Cliff Crouch

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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 16:54:57 EDT
From: DWT001@aol.com
To: newtontalk@planetnewton.com
Subject: Re: NTLK HELP!!  MP2K PAP log in script?
Message-ID: <0.36e33dc2.25476f21@aol.com>

Hey...I'm in the same boat...trying to get my eMate 300 to work with a modem.
Keep me posted on how your efforts turn out. I'm still bummed out with my 
lack of success.
Dave

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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 22:02:52 +0100
From: "Irvine Overbury" <irvine@overbury.freeserve.co.uk>
To: <newtontalk@planetnewton.com>
Subject: Re- PM100
Message-ID: <002001bf1ff5$78b15780$0179883e@d9n2t8>

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Hi,
I'm new to this MP stuff. I live in England, where they have never heard =
of Newton!
I have disks ( cd and floppy) with software on. I also have the cable to =
connect to my PC, but how do I get it on to my Newton MP100?
Can anyone help?
Irvine

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm new to this MP stuff. I live in =
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they have never heard of Newton!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have disks ( cd and floppy) with =
software on. I=20
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Newton=20
MP100?</FONT></DIV>
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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 14:07:45 -0700
From: "Jared Williams" <jwilliam@calpaksystems.com>
To: <mjoecups@aa.net>, <newtontalk@planetnewton.com>
Subject: Re: NTLK Modem
Message-ID: <01bf1ff6$264fc0c0$6602a8c0@cpq6300-1>

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What driver do you use for the Megahertz 33.6?

-Bondi Blue

56k gets you nothing.=20
    Stick with a meghertz 33.6 with xjack. I have two of these,  one is =
labeled Dell (hehe).=20
   =20
    They work perfectly in my 120, emate and 2000.=20
   =20
   =20
   =20

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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>What driver do you use for the =
Megahertz=20
33.6?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>-Bondi Blue</FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><BR>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 solid 2px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: =
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    gets you nothing.=20
    <P>Stick with a meghertz 33.6 with xjack. I have two of these,&nbsp; =
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    <P>They work perfectly in my 120, emate and 2000.=20
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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 17:06:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jeff Mitchell <skeezix@skeleton.org>
To: swell@rohan.sdsu.edu, newtontalk@planetnewton.com
Subject: Re: NTLK mp3 player for Newton
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.9910261705350.13689-100000@icomm.ca>

On Tue, 26 Oct 1999, Tom Swell wrote:

> concerto might be 200 megabytes. Are you sure you have room for all
> that in your Newton? Consider MOD files, which you CAN play and are
> usually much smaller. You will find them mentioned here often if you
> take the time to get to know us.

	The "problem" with MODs (practically speaking) is that most MODs
are either named funny, or they're a new creation by someone. Thats cool,
and to be encouraged, but makes it very painstakign to find new music you
care about. I'd prefer to have mp3's where I know what they are, and I can
make them easily enough..

	Now, if there was a MOD site with cover songs on it, I'd be happy.
There likely is, but I didnt' find onwe after looking for a few mins.

	(What I'd really like is the Shaft Theme in MOD format :)

		jeff

--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_

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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 23:15:41 +0200
From: Thomas Maschke <Thomas.Maschke@munich.netsurf.de>
To: <newtontalk@planetnewton.com>
Subject: Re: NTLK Calendar program
Message-ID: <B43BB131.D7C%Thomas.Maschke@munich.netsurf.de>

Laurent Daudelin (laurent_daudelin@fanniemae.com) schrieb am 26.10.1999
16:20 Uhr unter anderem:

> You can't. That's a 'built-in' limitation: you can't have a To-Do task with
> a reminder.

But there are workarounds. MoreInfo, DateMan or TimeTrax, just to mention a
few.

Thomas

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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 14:23:56 -0700
From: "Jared Williams" <jwilliam@calpaksystems.com>
To: <newtontalk@planetnewton.com>
Subject: Re: NTLK Modem
Message-ID: <01bf1ff8$68e28790$6602a8c0@cpq6300-1>

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Stick with a meghertz 33.6 with xjack. I have two of these,  one is =
labeled Dell (hehe).
   =20
   =20
   =20
    If you used Megahertz, how did you get it to work?  My Newton keeps =
saying, modem is not responding...I've tried to use modem enabler, but =
it's so complex that there are a lot of things I would need help on.  If =
you have a listing of a modem enabler profile, or the package I can =
install, please post it!  : )
   =20
   =20
   =20
    Thanks!
   =20
    -Bondi Blue
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one is=20
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    <P>&nbsp;</P>
    <P><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>If you used Megahertz, how did you =
get it to=20
    work?&nbsp; My Newton keeps saying, modem is not responding...I've =
tried to=20
    use modem enabler, but it's so complex that there are a lot of =
things I=20
    would need help on.&nbsp; If you have a listing of a modem enabler =
profile,=20
    or the package I can install, please post it!&nbsp; : )</FONT></P>
    <P><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
    <P><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Thanks!</FONT></P>
    <P><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>-Bondi =
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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 17:24:06 -0400
From: "Laurent Daudelin" <laurent_daudelin@fanniemae.com>
To: <newtontalk@planetnewton.com>
Subject: Re: NTLK Re- PM100
Message-ID: <38161BF6.B1424DD7@fanniemae.com>

Irvine Overbury wrote:

> Hi,I'm new to this MP stuff. I live in England, where they have never
> heard of Newton!I have disks ( cd and floppy) with software on. I also
> have the cable to connect to my PC, but how do I get it on to my
> Newton MP100?Can anyone help?Irvine

I'm not sure if I understand your question. Well, basically, you'll use
the disks to install an application called "Newton Connection Kit" onto
your PC's hard drive. Then, using the cable, you'll connect one end to
one of the serial port on your PC (usually COM1). Finally, if you look
on the right side of your MP100, you'll see some kind of cover over a
round DIN-8 port and a power adapter jack. If you have the right cable,
you should be able to plug the cable in the DIN-8 port. Then, launch NCK
on your PC, and on your MP, you need to open a package called "Dock" or
something like that (I don't remember the name). You start a serial
connection from your Newton and if the physical connection is good
between it and your PC, the Newton Connection Kit on your PC should
awake when it will receive some signal from your Newton. From there, it
should be pretty obvious to backup, restore or install packages from
your PC onto your MP100.

Hope that helps. Hey, if someone on the list remember the actual name
for the "Dock" package on an MP100, let us know.


--
-Laurent.
=====================================================================
Laurent Daudelin
Developer, Object Factory, Substrate                       Fannie Mae
Phone: 703-833-4266             mailto:Laurent_Daudelin@fanniemae.com
Fax:   703-833-7555                           Usual disclaimers apply

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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 14:26:00 -0700
From: "Jared Williams" <jwilliam@calpaksystems.com>
To: <newtontalk@planetnewton.com>
Subject: Re: NTLK Re- PM100
Message-ID: <01bf1ff8$b2b43c10$6602a8c0@cpq6300-1>

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You need to install the software, be it Windows95 or MacOS onto the =
system.  That will install the Newton Backup Utility.  Run that program, =
hook the Newton up, and install any packages onto the Newton that you =
like once it has confirmed the connection between Newton and your =
system.

HTH.

-Bondi Blue
-----Original Message-----
    From: Irvine Overbury <irvine@overbury.freeserve.co.uk>
    To: newtontalk@planetnewton.com <newtontalk@planetnewton.com>
    Date: Tuesday, October 26, 1999 2:12 PM
    Subject: NTLK Re- PM100
   =20
   =20
    Hi,
    I'm new to this MP stuff. I live in England, where they have never =
heard of Newton!
    I have disks ( cd and floppy) with software on. I also have the =
cable to connect to my PC, but how do I get it on to my Newton MP100?
    Can anyone help?
    Irvine

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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>You need to install the software, be =
it=20
Windows95 or MacOS onto the system.&nbsp; That will install the Newton =
Backup=20
Utility.&nbsp; Run that program, hook the Newton up, and install any =
packages=20
onto the Newton that you like once it has confirmed the connection =
between=20
Newton and your system.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>HTH.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>-Bondi Blue</FONT></DIV>
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    =
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.co.uk</A>&gt;<BR><B>To:=20
    </B><A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:newtontalk@planetnewton.com">newtontalk@planetnewton.com</=
A>=20
    &lt;<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:newtontalk@planetnewton.com">newtontalk@planetnewton.com</=
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    </B>Tuesday, October 26, 1999 2:12 PM<BR><B>Subject: </B>NTLK Re-=20
    PM100<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm new to this MP stuff. I live in =
England,=20
    where they have never heard of Newton!</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have disks ( cd and floppy) with =
software on.=20
    I also have the cable to connect to my PC, but how do I get it on to =
my=20
    Newton MP100?</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Can anyone help?</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial =
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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 14:39:07 PDT
From: "Bill Moser" <guillermo1967@hotmail.com>
To: newtontalk@planetnewton.com
Subject: re: audio adapter supplies
Message-ID: <19991026213907.50568.qmail@hotmail.com>

>Bill,

> Maybe you would like to offer kits for doityourselfers.

>RobertRuff

I expect I could do that. Production is going to be very slow going, mainly 
trying to solder wires on to those %^&* pins. Try soldering separate lines 
to 3 pins, about 2 mm apart and 4 mm long without creating a short.

Does anyone know of a supplier for VERY fine soldering irons? I almost need 
a hypodermic syringe with a heated tip...which would also be wonderful 
because I could inject the solder straight on to the connection. The real 
bear is getting the solder on to the connection without applying it to any 
others.

Thanks
Bill M.

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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 07:48:12 +1000
From: Dr Adrian Carr <a.carr@uws.edu.au>
To: newtontalk@planetnewton.com
Subject: Re: NTLK Other - Ripping & EMAIL PACKAGES
Message-ID: <v03130302b43bcc840fc0@[137.154.196.215]>

Frank, I well understand your behaviour in putting packages to one side. I
have done the same thing and have about 4,000 packages, some of them demos
and some of them ofiicial Apple software and some packages developed by
myself and some from software people who no longer are in business. I think
the key thing is to give full acknowledgement of the developer and not
undercut any software manufacturer currently in the market selling their
own packages. I also would suggest you print out a list of the packages you
have and compare it to the packages on the latest AMUG disk - you may find
there is not a huge difference between what you have and what they have
already produced. If there is a significant difference, I would be one of
the first in line to get a copy.

As a Newton community we do need this vital function to be performed - AMUG
has done a wonderful job to date but as a community we also need to be
aware of hassles with the assemblage and distribution of packages. One of
the major hassles, and I mean major, is that you may have demo or
sharewhere packages that are available to the user for a trial period after
which they do not work unless you have paid whatever the price is and then
inserted their code into the program to continue to use it. Unfortunately
some of these software developers are no longer in business and
uncontactable --- this is a pain in the A if you have used a package and
got to love it. A number of friends have had crashes and reinstalled their
software afresh only to forget the code for the software they need for the
package. This actually happened to me with Dashboard, which I regard as the
first must have package, - luckily Mason Mark of Fivespeed is still in
business and so I could retrieve my code.

I wonder if, in addition to any local CD production of Newton packages, we
should perhaps send copies of the software we come across to some acentral
ageny such as AMUG?

On another tack, can we discuss the various merits of email packages - I
ask this as I have found difficulty with some packages. Enroute seems to
not like downloading large amounts of email. I might have an email message
list of say 50 or 60 messages per day and Enroute will give up after 20-30
messages. There is no limit set in my software for the package - I wonder
if there is something else causing it to falter? I used Eudora Pro and
while it is not as well featured as Enroute it is much quicker in download
and uses less space on the Newton. Eudora Pro, however, has proved
inconsistent in downloading large numbers of emails.

I would love to hear people's comments on this.

Cheers

adrian






>>I HAVE NOT COLLECTED THE SOFTWARE FROM OTHER PEOPLES SITES! And once again,
>>IT'S NOT 28,647. IT WAS A TYPE ERROR! It is 2,647! And yes I collected them
>>over years, not just in several days dl from newton archive sites!!! I am
>not
>>that cheap.
>
>Folks, let me suggest to switch our default to "this person's not a
>thief"...
>
>Even if I took only those packages I've assembled seperately over the last
>years from many, many sources, I'd easily reach a number larger than 100.
>If I'd add all the packages I loaded because I was on some site anyway,
>thinking they might be useful eventually, the number would be considerably
>higher than that.
>If I threw in all the packages I have on CD's that I legally bought from
>software vendors (by that I mean shareware/freeware CD's, not the stuff I
>registered), I'm pretty sure I could beat 2,647 packages easily. Even if
>I threw in only those packages whose author's explicitly authorize this kind
>
>of distribution.
>
>None of the above does automatically make me a "ripper".
>
>I can, of course, understand Kenneth's disappointment, given his
>experiences.
>It's just that I think we should try, although maybe we've been meeting
>nothing
>but a*s*s*h*o*l*e*s yesterday, not to think that all the people we come
>across
>today fit in the same template.
>
>My experience is there are less dishonest people than honest ones, so for me
>it's pretty obvious how the default should be. Of course, your mileage may
>vary.
>
>Best
>
>Frank
>
>PS I do still wonder, however, what you mean by "cleared". May I politely
>suggest an explanation? People on this list have a history of getting
>upset if they notice a smell of piracy, no matter how faint...
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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 19:16:00 -0300
From: "Rivan  L. de Souza" <rivan@mandic.com.br>
To: "newtontalk@planetnewton.com" <newtontalk@planetnewton.com>
Subject: Eudora
Message-ID: <199910262146.TAA09688@hermes.mandic.com.br.>

1st:Can Eudora receive attached PKGs?
2nd: Somebody can Send me the rules of this list in easy English (I'm
Brasilian) ? tks
Rivan L. de Souza

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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 23:55:09 +0200
From: Thomas Maschke <Thomas.Maschke@munich.netsurf.de>
To: newtontalk <newtontalk@planetnewton.com>
Subject: Berlitz Interpreter
Message-ID: <B43BEE54.D9F%Thomas.Maschke@munich.netsurf.de>

Hi to all,

there once existed an Berlitz Interpreter which seems quite ideal for
travelling (= phrase translation software).

Does anyone know about it and can please give some advice?

And - will it run on OS 2.1 and where can I buy it?

tia

Thomas

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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 07:56:37 +1000
From: Dr Adrian Carr <a.carr@uws.edu.au>
To: newtontalk@planetnewton.com
Subject: Re: NTLK URGENT: can't download my e-mail
Message-ID: <v03130303b43bd379b272@[137.154.196.215]>

I presume you have nominated a card slot for the modem card to get around
that terrible Newton fault with the "Any PC" slot. Try plugging in a modem
to use the serial outlet. Could be the card slot might be damaged.

Cheers

adrian


>Hello everyone
>
>I'm not sure whether I'm using the URGENT tag correctly, but I'm getting
>pretty desperate and would welcome some help, so please bear with me :)
>
>I'm new to the list and have a problem that I can't solve, mainly
>downloading and sending my e-mail. I have a Messagepad 2100 and am using
>the Enroute Internet software.
>
>I've had no problems downloading and sending my e-mails in the past. I live
>in Singapore and have gotten it to work here. I've also used it in China
>and a friend has borrowed my machine to use it in America. It worked fine
>in both places, using the local ISP's roaming facility. After my friend's
>trip to America, I restored my settings and it worked fine back home. But
>soon after, I found I could no longer connect to the Internet.
>
>It's not a problem with my modem, which I tested on a laptop. Not a problem
>with my Internet settings, which I've checked many times. Also, I now am
>not able to fax too. When I try to download/send e-mail. the program starts
>to dial the number, then I get this error message:
>
>iNet Mail
>Internet error - 16022
>
>When I try to fax a document, the error message reads:
>
>Faxing to (so and so) failed. A communications problem occured. Connection
>may have been dropped.
>
>
>It's not my phone line too, coz I get the same thing using other phones.
>And I tried to delete the Enroute Internet program and restore it from my
>Mac. Same problem exists.
>
>Help. am leaving for USA in early Nov and I would love to get this problem
>tackled (if at all possible) by then.
>
>Apart from this,  I love my Newton, esp how it has learnt to recognise my
>handwriting after all these years. Sigh, I'm trying to use it as long as
>possible and would hate to move on to another PDA that allows me to
>send/receive e-mail.
>
>thanks in advance
>cheongsoon
>
>p.s. my office has a new HP Laserjet 4050 printer, but I can't beam to it.
>HP doesn't seem to have drivers for the Newton for this printer on its
>website. Is this also a lost cause?
>
>
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University of Western Sydney - Nepean
Parramatta Campus
P.O. Box 10
Kingswood
New South Wales 2747
AUSTRALIA

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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 08:13:53 +1000
From: Dr Adrian Carr <a.carr@uws.edu.au>
To: newtontalk@planetnewton.com
Subject: Re: NTLK Modem
Message-ID: <v03130306b43bd785a68a@[137.154.196.215]>

Earlier I made the following post (and the card works on 120/130
Newtons with OS 2.0):


<paraindent><param>right,right,left,left</param>I have been asked about
modem cards recently and, while the modem sites are there for us all to
check out what others have to say about the variety of cards available,
I thought I might just share a bit of info on a card that is on special
at Tima Scientific.


The card is the PRETEC 56K v.90/Flex and Tima are selling it for $92
(US). It works on my 2000/2100 but the instructions that come with it
and those on the PRETEC site did not work.

The following worked for me here in Australia (I hope the telphone
people aren't monitoring this as I am unsure whether it has compliance,
anyway)


The internet setup AND the Modem preferences in the preference file
have to be set to the same settings. This is the first and most
important point if you are dialing through a script.


The setup and modem preferences need to be set to the following:

*do not tap require dial tone;

*tap tone dialing;

*connect using right PC Card (A card must be specified due to the bug
that is related to the choice of Any PC Card)

*modem setup should be Newton Fax Modem.


I do not have shares in the company and I didn't receive a concession
on the cost of my card for telling you about it.


I am still chasing a driver for it to use on the Mac - it does work on
the Mac nonetheless, using  Supra 56V90 driver in your list of modems.


Hmm, I haven't checked to see if Tima still has any of these left but
those looking for a good modem, I can recommend it --- it is supposed
to also work with MP 120/130 with OS 2.0 --it also is supposed to work
with PCs as the floppy disk you get is for PCs.


PRETEC site is: http://www.pretec.com/Default.asp


Tima's site is: http://www.timasci.com



Enjoy.


adrian


PS - anyone know where you can get that accelerator card IMPLANT 2000
as the list of licensed resellers at the PIXsolution site is old with
some of those places either not in business or not setup to take credit
cards.

</paraindent>



>     Okay, I've given up on the modem card I  have...anybody have any
suggestions on which modem card I should purchase for my  Messagepad
130 that works at 56kbps?  Also, low power consumption, X-Jack  and
goodies like that are always preferred.   -Bondi Blue



<color><param>0000,7777,0000</param>Dr Adrian Carr

</color><color><param>FFFF,0000,0000</param>Principal Research Fellow

</color><color><param>FFFF,CCCC,0000</param>School of Social, Community
and Organisational Studies

</color><color><param>0000,0000,FFFF</param>University of Western
Sydney - Nepean

Parramatta Campus

P.O. Box 10

Kingswood

New South Wales 2747

AUSTRALIA


  










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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 17:34:24 -0500
From: "toddc" <mowabb@mowabb.com>
To: newtontalk <newtontalk@planetnewton.com>
Subject: Gradebook software
Message-ID: <199910262232.RAA14165@photon.soltec.net>

First, thanks to all who responded to my plea for help with the Clarity
gradebook. Problem was solved with Trashpak -- I just deleted the Clarity
prefs in the system soup and, although I got a cool warning message ("Your
preferences file is hosed! Restart your Newton and the file will be
recreated. Quit trying to hack this app!"), I was able to rescue my grades
from the gradebook. 

In pursuit of register-able, dependable gradebook software I offer the
following:

Making the Grade, which can be downloaded from
the AMUG site at:

http://cdrom.amug.org/http/bbs/106716-1.html

This is a Mac program with a Newton client, a cool solution. I haven't
actually used it yet since I just discovered it (thanks to whoever mentioned
it the other day on this list). The good news is that the company is still
in business and making the program, though the new version (8.0) doesn't
offer the Newton client option. I'm still checking with them to see if I can
get a registration code for version 7.0 so I can use it with my eMate. You
can contact them at:

http://www.gradebusters.com or email busters@aol.com

I hope this helps for any teachers out there...

-toddc

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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 08:43:38 +1000
From: Dr Adrian Carr <a.carr@uws.edu.au>
To: newtontalk@planetnewton.com
Subject: Re: NTLK Berlitz Interpreter
Message-ID: <v03130309b43bde9f5201@[137.154.196.215]>

Yes this translater was a PC card. I seem to remember it worked with the
earlier OS 2.0. I sold my copy when I sold a 2100.

Cheers
A


>Hi to all,
>
>there once existed an Berlitz Interpreter which seems quite ideal for
>travelling (= phrase translation software).
>
>Does anyone know about it and can please give some advice?
>
>And - will it run on OS 2.1 and where can I buy it?
>
>tia
>
>Thomas
>
>
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University of Western Sydney - Nepean
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Kingswood
New South Wales 2747
AUSTRALIA

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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 20:02:03 -0400
From: markr13 <markr13@voicenet.com>
To: <newtontalk@planetnewton.com>
Subject: Re: newtontalk V1 #134

>Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 10:31:04 -0500
>From: thomas <thomas@arlut.utexas.edu>
>To: <newtontalk@planetnewton.com>
>Subject: NTLK: pen for 130 newton
>Message-ID: <B439E1E6.339%thomas@arlut.utexas.edu>
>
>My styles is falling apart for my Newton 130.  Does any one know where I can
>get a new one the will fit inside the pen holder?
Go see Oz at:

Oz Suguitan <newtonoz@ix.netcom.com>

Find NewtonOz's latest list of goodies at:

<http://hometown.aol.com/thisolnewt/index2.html>

under the Newton Mall link.

Phone:
Sunday through Thursday, 7PM to 11:30PM
Pacific Standard Time 1 (818) 781-9391

or try PDA Direct at:  <http://www.pdaconnection.com>


Mark Ross
markr13@voicenet.com

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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 20:12:15 -0400
From: Sunder <sunder@sunder.net>
To: newtontalk@planetnewton.com
Subject: Re: NTLK re: audio adapter supplies
Message-ID: <3816435F.EA391600@sunder.net>

A few years back Rat shack had these liquid solder pens, does anyone know if
they still exist?  If they do, you could draw on a pc board and then solder
from that.

Bill Moser wrote:
> 
> >Bill,
> 
> > Maybe you would like to offer kits for doityourselfers.
> 
> >RobertRuff
> 
> I expect I could do that. Production is going to be very slow going, mainly
> trying to solder wires on to those %^&* pins. Try soldering separate lines
> to 3 pins, about 2 mm apart and 4 mm long without creating a short.
> 
> Does anyone know of a supplier for VERY fine soldering irons? I almost need
> a hypodermic syringe with a heated tip...which would also be wonderful
> because I could inject the solder straight on to the connection. The real
> bear is getting the solder on to the connection without applying it to any
> others.

-- 
---------------------------- Kaos Keraunos Kybernetos -------------------- 
 + ^ +  Sunder              "Only someone completely distrustful of   /|\ 
  \|/   sunder@sunder.net    all government would be opposed to what /\|/\ 
<--*--> -------------------- we are doing with surveillance cameras" \/|\/ 
  /|\   You're on the air.   -- NYC Police Commish H. Safir.          \|/ 
 + v +  Say 'Hi' to Echelon  "Privacy is an 'antisocial act'" - The FedZ.
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 14:42:45 +1300
From: "Steve Rooke" <srooke@chhlth.govt.nz>
To: <newtontalk@planetnewton.com>
Subject: NTLK re: audio adapter supplies
Message-ID: <s8170f85.075@smtpgate.chhlth.govt.nz>

Hi Bill,

Sounds like you have a challenging time ahead. I used to work as a design =
engineer some years back and had many a happy 'year' soldering very tiny =
connections on things, I still have a special Weller soldering station =
which has almost a needle-like tip.

Anyway, I would be very interested in some kit parts to make up audio =
adapters myself. I'd probably just really need some of the special MP =
connectors and details of the connections. Now I understand that the =
company who supply the connectors only likes to deal in volumes so I'm not =
sure if I want whatever the minimum they sell. Depending on price, I =
wouldn't mind getting hold of a couple or three. Would you be interested =
in supplying this to me in New Zealand?

Thanks,
Steve

--
Steve Rooke - srooke@chhlth.govt.nz
Systems Manager
Canterbury Health Ltd, Christchurch, New Zealand

>>> "Bill Moser" <guillermo1967@hotmail.com> 10/27/99 10:39 >>>
>Bill,

>? Maybe you would like to offer kits for doityourselfers.

>RobertRuff

I expect I could do that. Production is going to be very slow going, =
mainly=20
trying to solder wires on to those %^&* pins. Try soldering separate =
lines=20
to 3 pins, about 2 mm apart and 4 mm long without creating a short.

Does anyone know of a supplier for VERY fine soldering irons? I almost =
need=20
a hypodermic syringe with a heated tip...which would also be wonderful=20
because I could inject the solder straight on to the connection. The =
real=20
bear is getting the solder on to the connection without applying it to =
any=20
others.

Thanks
Bill M.

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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 22:03:53 EDT
From: DWT001@aol.com
To: newtontalk@planetnewton.com
Subject: Re: NTLK "full scale" browser
Message-ID: <0.c9e0651c.2547b789@aol.com>

Will Newtscape work on an eMate?
Tks.
Dave
In a message dated 9/30/99 7:13:25 AM, troilus1@yahoo.com writes:

<< Maybe you _should_ try Newt's Cape.  I'm a
registered user (v.2.0) and Steve's gem of a
program _does_ support cookies, allowing me to
use a net-based email client right on my Newt.  >>

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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 22:11:15 -0400
From: "Tony Valentine" <tonyv@bellatlantic.net>
To: <newtontalk@planetnewton.com>
Subject: Re: NTLK Eudora
Message-ID: <000901bf2020$8ddd5c00$6876c597@bellatlantic.net>

No, Eudora will not receive PKGs.  I believe Simple Mail has this feature.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Rivan L. de Souza <rivan@mandic.com.br>
To: <newtontalk@planetnewton.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 1999 6:16 PM
Subject: NTLK Eudora


> 1st:Can Eudora receive attached PKGs?
> 2nd: Somebody can Send me the rules of this list in easy English (I'm
> Brasilian) ? tks
> Rivan L. de Souza
> 
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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 22:20:10 -0400
From: Ivan Shaw <ishaw@sympatico.ca>
To: newtontalk@planetnewton.com
Subject: Re: NTLK "full scale" browser
Message-ID: <4.2.1.19991026221911.00a882b0@pop1.sympatico.ca>

At 10:03 PM 10/26/99 -0400, DWT001@aol.com wrote:
>Will Newtscape work on an eMate?

Yes. All three Newton browsers also load on the eMate (you'll want the RAM 
upgrade if you intend on trying LunaSuite).



--
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Are you a "Have"?

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http://www.ivanshaw.com

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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 22:20:26 EDT
From: RobertRuff@aol.com
To: newtontalk@planetnewton.com
Subject: What about that FREE IPS
Message-ID: <0.1527cb47.2547bb6a@aol.com>

  Hi Group,
   
   A while back someone sent a message regarding a free Internet service 
provider that would work with the Newton.  If any one has that information 
would you please repost it.

TIA.

RobertRuff

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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 15:25:32 +1300
From: "Steve Rooke" <srooke@chhlth.govt.nz>
To: <newtontalk@planetnewton.com>
Subject: NTLK re: audio adapter supplies
Message-ID: <s817196e.058@smtpgate.chhlth.govt.nz>

Please accept my apologies for sending mail intended for private communicat=
ion to the list. This was unintentional and I'm sorry that this has added =
to the bloat that we are all groaning about.

Best regards,
Steve

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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 22:34:16 EDT
From: RobertRuff@aol.com
To: newtontalk@planetnewton.com, Rik6925@aol.com
Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Qualcomm=20QCP-2700=20=95=20Newton=202100=20=95=20?=
 =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Megahertz=2028.8=20XJA3288?=
Message-ID: <0.576ef33a.2547bea8@aol.com>

To whom it may concern:

I have PrimeCo service, with a Qualcomm QCP-2700 cell phone, I also haved a 
Newton 2100 with a  Megahertz 28.8 XJA3288.  I would like to connect it all 
together.  If it's a cable, or whatever.  I would appreciate information on 
where to buy, what to buy, what it costs, or whatever you can supply.

Thanks,

Rick Armas

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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 11:37:43 +0800
From: "Kenneth Wong" <ghoonk@mailworld.net>
To: <newtontalk@planetnewton.com>
Subject: Re: NTLK URGENT: can't download my e-mail
Message-ID: <005f01bf202c$a6f6b860$74e17ecb@theactiveidea.com>

Hi Cheong Soon

The problem that you are having can be solved by going to Internet Setup and
defining the slot that you are using for your modem in the ISP settings. In
my case, I am using my Hayes modem in the Bottom PC card slot (because the
screen turns dark when the modem heats up).

Also, I would recommend that you use SimpleMail to handle your email (unless
you want filtering, which only Eudora can do at this point). It's small,
fast, and handles packages.

The HP LaserJet that you are trying to print to is not supported by the
Newton, probably due to a lack of a driver. I don't foresee anyone writing a
driver for it in the near future, so don't go on hoping.


Kenneth Wong
Vice President
The Active Idea Company Private Limited

P.S. I'm from Singapore too. If you're still having problems with your
Newton, email me directly and we can meet up to fix it.

----- Original Message -----
From: <cheongsoon@pacific.net.sg>
To: <newtontalk@planetnewton.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 1999 1:10 AM
Subject: NTLK URGENT: can't download my e-mail


> Hello everyone
>
> I'm not sure whether I'm using the URGENT tag correctly, but I'm getting
> pretty desperate and would welcome some help, so please bear with me :)
>
> I'm new to the list and have a problem that I can't solve, mainly
> downloading and sending my e-mail. I have a Messagepad 2100 and am using
> the Enroute Internet software.
>
> I've had no problems downloading and sending my e-mails in the past. I
live
> in Singapore and have gotten it to work here. I've also used it in China
> and a friend has borrowed my machine to use it in America. It worked fine
> in both places, using the local ISP's roaming facility. After my friend's
> trip to America, I restored my settings and it worked fine back home. But
> soon after, I found I could no longer connect to the Internet.
>
> It's not a problem with my modem, which I tested on a laptop. Not a
problem
> with my Internet settings, which I've checked many times. Also, I now am
> not able to fax too. When I try to download/send e-mail. the program
starts
> to dial the number, then I get this error message:
>
> iNet Mail
> Internet error - 16022
>
> When I try to fax a document, the error message reads:
>
> Faxing to (so and so) failed. A communications problem occured. Connection
> may have been dropped.
>
>
> It's not my phone line too, coz I get the same thing using other phones.
> And I tried to delete the Enroute Internet program and restore it from my
> Mac. Same problem exists.
>
> Help. am leaving for USA in early Nov and I would love to get this problem
> tackled (if at all possible) by then.
>
> Apart from this,  I love my Newton, esp how it has learnt to recognise my
> handwriting after all these years. Sigh, I'm trying to use it as long as
> possible and would hate to move on to another PDA that allows me to
> send/receive e-mail.
>
> thanks in advance
> cheongsoon
>
> p.s. my office has a new HP Laserjet 4050 printer, but I can't beam to it.
> HP doesn't seem to have drivers for the Newton for this printer on its
> website. Is this also a lost cause?

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