[NTLK] Newton Mail | SMTP NewtonCity: Error 500

[Noah Leon]

Hi gentlemen,

Reading through Simon Bell’s manual, he details how to select a different port in Mail V:

“Against Mail server enter your IMAP mail server’s name. If you need to specify a port number other than IMAP’s usual 143, append a colon and the number to the server name; for example:
mail.walthrop.net:1143”

I tried it with port mail.newtoncity.org:587 and newtoncity.org:587 and I received the same error. My worry is it has something to do with how the password is sent.

[fr]
En lisant le document PDF préparé par Simon Bell j’ai lu:

“Against Mail server enter your IMAP mail server’s name. If you need to specify a port number other than IMAP’s usual 143, append a colon and the number to the server name; for example:
mail.walthrop.net:1143”

Mais j’ai essayé avec mail.newtoncity.org:587 et newtoncity.org:587 et j’ai reçu le même erreur. J’ai peur que le problème peut être concerné le méthode de transmettre de mot de passe.

Noah

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> On May 24, 2020, at 7:18 AM, Nic Malone <nicmalone at mac.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Sylvain
> 
>> The reason why we can't send mail via the smpt.newtoncity.org service is because on Newton we can only use port 25 (smpt.newtoncity.org:25) which is unencrypted (Newtons don't support ssl or tsl). By default port 25 is disabled in Citadel for security reasons, to prevent the service from being bombarded by spiders. As a result the smtp service rejects us when we try to send an email. On our Mac/PC or even on our smartphones this is not a problem because it communicates on port 587 which is active on Citadel.
> 
> This is odd as I have forced the smtp settings as port 25 on my Mac ("use custom port = 25") rather than leaving it to pick the best port itself, and I can both send and receive email via NewtonCity on this Mac (12" PowerBook).
> 
>> But opening port 25 or not is not really difficult, the concern is that then we also have to manage the security of the site…  ...
> 
> I can sympathise. I've been looking into setting up my own email server but it looks hellishly complicated - so good luck! I found a product called MailServe for Mac users that is supposed to make things a bit easier (£30 with no trial period and you have to re-purchase with every OS update! Good reviews for customer service though). Has anyone here tried it? https://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/21572/mailserve
> 
>> Personally I get around the problem by using the smtp service of my Internet provider (Orange here in France) which still allows the use of port 25 on its (smtp.orange.fr:25) with my Orange ID of course.
> 
> You are lucky to have such a flexible email provider. My own (PlusNet in the UK) blocks port 25 and it looks like Orange UK does too. Shame. For now then, I'll try setting-up wired transfer for my notes, once my DIN8-DB9 cable arrives.
> 
> Regards
> Nic
>