[NTLK] slight correction Re: Intel Series 2+ 16MB wrong size on Newton

B Dudney kosmicdollop at saber.net
Fri Aug 3 20:33:47 EDT 2018


correction: Newton FAQ has “?” whether II+ cards work on 1.x models.

B

I wrote:
> Piotrowski Paweł (Newton) wrote:
>> I have Intel Series 2+ 16MB linear card, but my Newtons shows me 20MB capacity. How and why? Any ideas?1) What kind of memory cards can I use in my Newton?
> 
> Attached below is table of compatible cards from Newton FAQ II indicating II+ cards work on all 2.0 and up models, not 1.x.
> 
> Perhaps the card was mislabeled?
> 
> If it works, I wouldn’t worry.
> 
> B
> 
> 
> a) What cards are suitable for the Newton?
> 
> You can use SRAM cards or FlashRAM cards. SRAM cards are more expensive
> than FlashRAM cards, and they need an internal battery.
> There are several kinds of flash memory cards available today. There are
> ATA flash cards, compact flash cards, SmartMedia flash cards and linear
> flash cards. Linear, ATA and compact cards are the same size, but only
> linear (or regular) cards can be used in Newton Message Pads, and not all.
> (see next question).
> 
> b) What sizes and models are suitable for my Newton?
> 
> There are several common kinds of linear cards, depending on the chip used
> in it.
> 
> Memory Card compatibility
> 
> +--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+
> |	 |  All   |  All   |	    |	     |
> | Model  |  1.x   |  2.0   | MP2x00 | eMate  |
> |	 | models | models |	    |	300  |
> +--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+
> |	 |	  |	   |	    |	     |
> | SRAM	 |  Yes   |  Yes   |  Yes   |  Yes   |
> |	 |	  |	   |	    |	     |
> +--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+
> |AMD D/AD|	  |	   |	    |	     |
> |	 |   No   |  Yes   |  Yes   |  Yes   |
> | 5v/5v  |	  |	   |	    |	     |
> +--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+
> |Intel II|	  |	   |	    |  Read  |
> |	 |  Yes   |  Yes   |  Yes   |  Only  |
> | 5v/12v |	  |	   |	    |	     |
> +--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+
> | Intel  |	  |	   |	    |	     |
> |  II+	 |   ?	  |  Yes   |  Yes   |  Yes   |
> | 5v/5v  |	  |	   |	    |	     |
> +--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+
> | Intel  |	  |	   |	    |	     |
> | VS 100 |   No   |   No   |  Yes   |  Yes   |
> | 5v/5v  |	  |	   |	    |	     |
> +--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+
> | Intel  |	  |	   |	    |	     |
> | VS 200 |   No   |   No   |   No   |	No   |
> | 5v/5v  |	  |	   |	    |	     |
> +--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+
> VS: Value Series
> 
> Please note that I compiled this table from various sources.
> SRAM cards are said to only work if they are 4 MB or smaller.
> It is believed that you need Newton OS 2.x to use flash cards bigger than 4
> MB, however it appears to be wrong at least with the Intel Series II+ in a
> MP100: Harri Hohteri <harri.hohteri at cs.helsinki.fi> succeeded in using such
> a card in his MP2100, his MP130 and his MP100.
> It is believed that Series II+ only work in 2.x models, but Harri Hohteri's
> 40 MB card works in his MP100.
> The maximum size limit has been said to be 4 MB, 32 MB, or any other value.
> Apparently, there is no size limit but the linear cards limit (64 MB),
> however nobody reported to have been able (or unable) to use a 64 MB card.
> If you do, please contact us.
> Intel and AMD are technologies and most of the time suppliers of the chips,
> not brands. Therefore Intel cards can be sold under different brand names
> (Apple for example ;-). You can identify them by their part number:
> nn is the memory capacity in MB
> * Series II: iMC0nnFLSA
> * Series II+: iMC0nnFLSP
> * VS 100: iMC0nnFLSC
> 
> 
> 
> via cable from low-power MacBook lacking wireless devices,
> hence radiating no deadly EMR connectivity: see RadiateNot.Me;
> plus powered by non-radiating coaxial DC cable from utility shed
> where wall wart* EMR is indetectably far away
>                           *standard Apple shielded power supply = less emissions
> 
> 
> 
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via cable from low-power MacBook lacking wireless devices,
hence radiating no deadly EMR connectivity: see RadiateNot.Me;
plus powered by non-radiating coaxial DC cable from utility shed
where wall wart* EMR is indetectably far away
                           *standard Apple shielded power supply = less emissions







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