[NTLK] Newton Ux

Dennis Swaney romad at mac.com
Thu Mar 16 10:11:44 EDT 2017


I have to disagree with both you and Forrest on this. Color is a NATURAL
progression, just as WiFi, Bluetooth, etc were natural progressions of IRDA
wireless. Based on your belief that the black on green of the original
Newton (dictated by what screen technology was available 20 years ago) is
the best, then perhaps the Mac should have stayed with only black on white
or the PC green on black for their displays?

Face it, if Jobs had NOT killed the Newton, today's version would in all
likely hood look like an iPad, color and all. Remember you can change the
display color in iOS to black on white or white on black so the same thing
could be added to the replacement "Newton" OS. I'm sure a black on green
setting could be available for those that prefer it.

Sincerely,
Dennis B. Swaney

"I think, therefore I Mac"

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 10:43 PM, John Heinrichs <minicapt1 at mac.com> wrote:

> I agree with Forrest.
>
> Cheers
> J.M. Heinrichs
>minicapt1 at mac.com
>
> > On 15 Mar 17, at 22:39, Forrest <newton_phoenix at mindspring.com> wrote:
> >
> > Sorry Ermin, but my thoughts are: NO color; none...except as LW Brown
> suggests, what would be normal for media such as video and photos.
> >
> > Perhaps color such as you suggest could be an option, I'm not against
> that feature...but I doubt sincerely that I'd have any interest. Grant's
> comments sum it up nicely for me.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Forrest
> >
> > Sent from my T-Mobile iPhone 6 Plus
> >
> >> On Mar 15, 2017, at 1:10 PM, Ermin Mistica <erminmistica at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Just an idea. Not dull blown OLED/AMOLED color but soft muted color.
> Very, very, very light muted pastels. Almost an anti-bright Samsung Screen
> declaration theme. And then, color where appropriate for media and such.
> >>
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> >>> On Mar 15, 2017, at 3:46 AM, Forrest <newton_phoenix at mindspring.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> LW Brown wrote:
> >>> "Just my thought: not a color os, but color just in appropriate apps:
> pix, videos, drawing..."
> >>>
> >>> Agreed. I like that idea.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Forrest
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my T-Mobile iPhone 6 Plus
> >>>
> >>>> On Mar 15, 2017, at 12:22 AM, L.W. Brown <lwb at mac.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Just my thought: not a color os, but color just in appropriate apps:
> pix, videos, drawing...
> >>>>
> >>>> -L.W. Brown
> >>>> via 6s+
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Mar 14, 2017, at 13:00, Jeff Sheldon <jeffsheldon at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> All the comments on this topic are extremely valuable.  I especially
> >>>>> appreciate that spectrum of pros/cons/obstacles and grounded
> thoughts on
> >>>>> the matter.  Part of the reason I first asked was to get an idea of
> whether
> >>>>> people seem to be fine with things the way they are, design-wise, or
> if
> >>>>> there's an eventual desire to take things, visually anyway, a
> different
> >>>>> direction.  This could of course be many years away.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> As for color and whatnot, I'm making the assumption that Newton Inc.
> >>>>> considered this inevitability fairly strongly and had some solid
> ideas in
> >>>>> the works that would have merit in fulfilling.  My message to Mr.
> Yamashita
> >>>>> was enthusiastically passed on, but I haven't heard anything back
> yet and
> >>>>> might not (will check back in).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Mostly I'm just curious as to what the general atmosphere around
> this issue
> >>>>> is.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The comments about iOS and the handheld bring up the issues of
> tangible
> >>>>> usability and presence.  I just bought a $13 1st gen iPod Touch,
> jailbroke
> >>>>> it, and am playing around with the idea of compiling a super slow
> instance
> >>>>> of Einstein for it.  Has anyone already done this on any i-device
> and have
> >>>>> any thoughts on the usability?  I seem to recall hearing that at
> least one
> >>>>> person here has done it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -Jeff
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 2:27 PM, Ermin Mistica <
> erminmistica at gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> That's an awesome explanation. I've recently started on a road to a
> new
> >>>>>> career and am learning how to code. One of the things I promised
> myself a
> >>>>>> decade ago was to learn NewtonScript if I could and contribute to
> this
> >>>>>> Operating System/Community.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Until this day watching the old Newton commercials and demos brings
> a
> >>>>>> certain "warmth" to my heart. We were really part of a revolution.
> One that
> >>>>>> the rest of the world is realizing these last ten years with iOS and
> >>>>>> Android. A handheld is commonplace now. Woo Hoo! But none so far
> really
> >>>>>> touch on the sometimes awkward, very much awesome steps the Newton
> made.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I look forward to what comes even if it remains in "hobbyist" hands.
> >>>>>>
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