[NTLK] Einstein, Android, new Hardware, old Hardware

Forrest Buffenmyer newtonphoenix at mindspring.com
Wed Nov 30 21:03:38 EST 2011

On reconsideration, though...I understand your reasoning, but I think you have a bit of "developer bias" (uhhh maybe because you are a developer! ;) ) towards the closed system of iOS. We've had this debate here before (closed system vs. open), so I'm not reopening it. But, obviously it behooves you to develop for more open-sourced products, like Android, and not have go through the "Spanish Inquisition" that is approval to Apple's App Store.

As a consumer this matters little to me...even as Apple's products have been also primarily closed re: hardware, I've always just purchased whatever device I thought would work best for me. If Apple's offerings didn't have the features I wanted, I would look elsewhere, open or closed would matter little to me.

While in theory I generally support the concept of open sourcing, I am concerned that it has caused a severe dilution of the Android platform, to the point of frustration to some of its users. While some Android users are still waiting for the latest update, and a few recent Android devices--according to Google--won't be offered *any* updates from here on, the recent iOS 5 update covered iPhones all the way back two years ago to the 3G, and was (mostly) done unobtrusively.

Will we be able to run Einstein on any Android device? I would think, due the many variations, the answer will be "no"...not as successfully, anyway, as the one you've primarily developed it for.

Just some thoughts and concerns I have on Einstein and Android.


Sent from my First Generation iPad

On Nov 30, 2011, at 11:54 AM, Matthias Melcher <mm at matthiasm.com> wrote:

> On 30.11.2011, at 17:19, Jon Glass wrote:
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 4:32 PM, Matthias Melcher <mm at matthiasm.com> wrote:
>>> We are trying to perfect the Android implementation of Einstein and we have come quite far. I bought a Samsung Galaxy Note
>> The only shame about all this is the name "Samsung". I've had such
>> horrible experiences with their hardware, from printers, to cameras to
>> phones, that I decided to no longer give them my money. I just don't
>> trust them any more--and then they went and did Apple the way they did
>> just drives home my decision to not give them my money any more. If it
>> were on any other company's hardware, I'd be happy... just not
>> Samsung... But that's just me...
> Sorry to hear that.
> Well, it is Android, so any Android device will do. Samsung Galaxy Note and HTC Flyer are the only two Android devices AFAIK that have a decent pen, and not the thumb like rubbery thingy they sell for touch screens. 
> Apple is extremely cut-throat with their competition and even with their own employees. They hit Samsung with their lawsuit because Samsung is extremely successful with their Android devices. Samsung BTW released a slightly modified tablet for Germany and the Netherlands that no longer violates Apple's claims.
> My biggest issue with Apple is, that I can not run my own software on my own device. To me, that is ridiculous. If there will ever be an Apple car, will they limit the cities that I can drive to? Will I be unable to drive to Berlin unless I pay a yearly 100$ fee to drive to cities that start with a 'B'?
> So, unless Apple changes their mind, and at least allows me to put Einstein in the AppStore, there will be no more Newton on iOS from my side.
> - Matthias
> PS: I have absolutely no affiliations to any of the companies mentioned.
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