Re: [NTLK] How is the Newton a Mac?

From: NewtonMP - Paul Curtis (paul.curtis_at_newtonmp.com)
Date: Fri Apr 02 2004 - 11:31:50 PST


Thanks Martin, very helpful as well as the Apple-History site.

Regards,

Paul Curtis
MP 120 v2.0/MP 130/MP 2100
Go Green! Go White! Michigan State Spartans

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[mailto:newtontalk-bounce_at_newtontalk.net] On Behalf Of Martin Joseph
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 11:17 AM
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Subject: Re: [NTLK] How is the Newton a Mac?

On Apr 2, 2004, at 9:16 AM, Chris Edwards wrote:

> How many times have you hovered the floor with a dyson(or electrolux,
> kirby etc,etc)
> Some things become generic, I really love my macintosh Ipod

  Hello! Stubborn you certainly are, and still wrong. A vacuum might
be a vacuum, but an ipod is certainly NOT a macintosh.

With regard to Paul's list...

There have to two primary processor families in Mac's history...

The 68000 family (68000,68030,68040)
This includes the Original mac (68000) through the
Quadra/Centris/Performa families (68040). These performa's have three
digit model numbers (ie 630).

PowerPC Family, when it looked like Motorolas development of the
68000, wasn't going to be so exciting in the future, Apple got involved
in something called the AIM alliance, A for Apple, I for IBM, M for
Motorola. This was a joint effort to define and produce RISC based
Micro processors for future products. This has been an extreme success
(see Power 5/xbox 2/Powermac)

 From Apple's point of view this family includes (PPC
601,603,604,750,74xx,970)

The 601 was the original PPC used in Macs (performa 6100, Powermac
6100,7100,8100). The 603 was used in several consumer grade systems
like the 6400,6500, TAM The 604 was used in the Powermac Powersurge
families (7300-9600 except the 8100(see above)). The 750 family is
also known as the G3, which was used in the imac (original) and ibook,
as well as the blue and white G3 and the Powerbook G3 (3 models). The
four digit number starting in 74xx are also know as G4, these are used
in all current imacs and ibooks, and powerbooks. The 970 is Apple's
new baby which is known as G5. PowerMac G5 and Xserve use these.

There have also been two different operating systems sold as
"Macintosh" in it's 20 year+ history. The original Mac OS which was
68K based and designed to run a single Application on a GUI based
personal computer with limited resources (originally 128K of ram and no
Hard drive) this product evolved over the years and added functions
like color and multitasking.The two year old Mac OSX, which is a *nix
(as in Unix) based Operating system, is based on an OS originally
designed for "mini" computers which also were somewhat less limited
resources, and needed to share them with mulitple users(ie it wasn't ok
to crash).

Notice NO CROSSOVER WHATSOEVER between Newt processors, and / or OS
development.

My memory of Steve killing Newt was based on the statement that Apple
could not afford to have multiple simultaneous development of two
operating systems, they needed to focus on one only for maximum
impact. They Outsource the Ipod OS by the by...

Marty

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