Re: [NTLK] newtontalk Digest V1 #427

From: Chris Georges (chrisg_at_klabin.com)
Date: Sun Dec 23 2001 - 13:53:59 EST


Thank you for your e-mail message of this date. I will be out of the =
office through January 3, 2002. I occasionally will check my e-mail, but =
if you need urgently to contact me, please dial my cel phone at 818-367-620=
0.

Thanks, and Happy New Year!

Chris

>>> newtontalk 12/23/01 13:53 >>>

newtontalk Digest Sun, 23 Dec 2001 Volume: 01 Issue: 427

In This Issue:
                Re: [NTLK] newtontalk Digest V1 #426
                [NTLK] eMate carry/storage case
                [NTLK] These sites are gone
                Re: [NTLK] my newton's got high fever !
                [NTLK] UMP2000 Contrast
                Re: [NTLK] soccer newton book%26In-Reply-To=3D%26lt;F86PeSH=
vnN
                Re: [NTLK] xerox
                Re: [NTLK] Newton 2001
                [NTLK] newtonlink linux mandrake perl 5.6.1

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Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 22:33:35 -0800
From: "Chris Georges" <chrisg_at_klabin.com>
Subject: Re: [NTLK] newtontalk Digest V1 #426

Thank you for your e-mail message of this date. I will be out of the =3D
office through January 3, 2002. I occasionally will check my e-mail, but =
=3D
if you need urgently to contact me, please dial my cel phone at 818-367-620=
=3D
0.

Thanks, and Happy New Year!

Chris

>>> newtontalk 12/23/01 01:33 >>>

newtontalk Digest Sat, 22 Dec 2001 Volume: 01 Issue: 426

In This Issue:
                [NTLK] Sorry
                [NTLK] Newton Brasil?
                Re: [NTLK] Newton Brasil?
                Re: [NTLK] Newton Brasil?
                Re: [NTLK] Newton Brasil?

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Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 09:30:53 -0500
Subject: Re: [NTLK] Problems with 8mb PRETEC cards
From: Laurent Daudelin <nemesys_at_cox.rr.com>

on 21/12/01 23:49, Denis Krasnov at dkrasnov_at_nyc.rr.com wrote:

>>=3D20
>> on 21/12/01 23:16, Denis Krasnov at dkrasnov_at_nyc.rr.com wrote:
>> [snip!]
>>> Can anyone explain this ?
>>=3D20
>> Sorry, I don't have any explanation, but if this can make you feel =3D
better,
>> I've been using a 16 MB Pretec card for well over a year now without =
=3D
any
>> problem, in my 2100.
>>=3D20
>> -Laurent.
>=3D20
> Does it say on the back "P/N:FAD0016-P" and "Assembled in Taiwan" ?

Hey, that's exactly it! A little bit more and you were about to give me =
=3D
its
serial number?

-Laurent.
--=3D20
=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=
=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D
=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=
=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D
=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=
=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D
Laurent Daudelin <http://home.cox.rr.com/nemesys>
Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:nemesys_at_cox.rr.com

COBOL /koh'bol/ n.: [COmmon Business-Oriented Language] (Synonymous with
evil.) A weak, verbose, and flabby language used by card wallopers to do
boring mindless things on dinosaur mainframes. Hackers believe that all
COBOL programmers are suits or code grinders, and no self-respecting =3D
hacker
will ever admit to having learned the language. Its very name is seldom
uttered without ritual expressions of disgust or horror. One popular one =
=3D
is
Edsger W. Dijkstra's famous observation that "The use of COBOL cripples =
=3D
the
mind; its teaching should, therefore, be regarded as a criminal offense."

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Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 09:37:10 -0500
Subject: Re: [NTLK] Holidays & list administration
From: "Eric L. Strobel" <fyzycyst_at_home.com>

somewhere near the temporal coordinates of 12/21/01 11:36 PM, the entity
known as James Elliott transmitted the following from
rootbeeraddict_at_yahoo.com:

>=3D20
> Incontinent? Where do you get that?
>=3D20
>> oh great. a clumsy *and* incontinent sys admin....
>>=3D20
>> --
>> Michael Guzzo
>> http://home.att.net/~michael.guzzo/newton/newton.html
>>=3D20
>>> I promise not to break anything while you're gone...
>>>=3D20
>>> <bump!>
>>> <crash!>
>>> <tinkle, tinkle...>
>>>=3D20
>>> Oops.
>>>=3D20
>>> g.
>=3D20

Beats me. <Hands Grant a dustpan & brush for the broken items AND a mop &
bucket for the tinkles...>

- Eric.
--=3D20

Eric Strobel (fyzycyst_at_NOSPAM^mailaps.org)

=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=
=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D
=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=
=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D
=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=
=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D
Remember... Moderation in all things, INCLUDING MODERATION!!
=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=
=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D
=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=
=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D
=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=
=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D20

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From: =3D3D?iso-8859-1?Q?F=3D3DE1bio_Palma?=3D3D <newton.pda_at_terra.com.br>
Subject: [NTLK] Sorry
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 14:02:15 -0200

Sorry about too many e-mails with the same text... Outlook problem!

Best regards,

F=3DDFbio Palma

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Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 13:47:38 -0500
From: James Elliott <rootbeeraddict_at_yahoo.com>
Subject: [NTLK] Newton Brasil?

Can anyone give me some info on this?
http://br.groups.yahoo.com/group/newtonbrasil/

-James

The James Elliott Newton Site:
http://www.geocities.com/rootbeeraddict/newton.html
Is that a Newton in your pocket, or are you happy to see me?

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Subject: Re: [NTLK] 57600 serial on PC
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 12:09:49 -0700
From: "Grant [Dagnabbit] Hutchinson" <grant_at_splorp.com>

In a previous message, Michael Hurley typed vigorously:

>Thanks muchly. It's very odd, but I just tried the original link=3D20
>again, and I still get a "File Not Found" error again. Your link=3D20
>worked fine though.

The original link has an unencoded space character in the file name.=3D20
Depending on the type of browser you are using to download the file, =
it=3D20
may not be able to parse the link correctly. This is why using spaces =3D
in=3D20
file and directory names on web sites is discouraged.

g.

......................................................................

Grant Hutchinson Interface Considerations & Toys

Live video served fresh since 1996. http://www.splorp.com/cam/
Now fortified with daily ramblings. http://www.splorp.com/blog/
Newton. It's the Palm with a brain. http://www.splorp.com/newton/

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Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 17:03:45 -0300
Subject: Re: [NTLK] Newton Brasil?
From: Alexander Andrade Leao <alexleao_at_mpcnet.com.br>

Yep, this is a brazilian Newton group at Yahoo groups....

Alex

> From: James Elliott <rootbeeraddict_at_yahoo.com>
> Reply-To: newtontalk_at_newtontalk.net
> Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 13:47:38 -0500
> To: NewtonTalk List <newtontalk_at_newtontalk.net>
> Subject: [NTLK] Newton Brasil?
>=3D20
>=3D20
> Can anyone give me some info on this?
> http://br.groups.yahoo.com/group/newtonbrasil/
>=3D20
> -James
>=3D20
> The James Elliott Newton Site:
> http://www.geocities.com/rootbeeraddict/newton.html
> Is that a Newton in your pocket, or are you happy to see me?
>=3D20
> --=3D20
> This is the Newtontalk mailinglist - http://www.newtontalk.net
> To unsubscribe or manage: visit the above link or
> mailto:newtontalk-request_at_newtontalk.net?Subject=3D3Dunsubscribe
>=3D20
>=3D20

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Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 14:24:58 -0500
From: James Elliott <rootbeeraddict_at_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [NTLK] Newton Brasil?

Anything else that you can tell me?

>Yep, this is a brazilian Newton group at Yahoo groups....
> > Can anyone give me some info on this?
> > http://br.groups.yahoo.com/group/newtonbrasil/
> >

The Sharp ExpertPad Upgrade Project:
http://www.geocities.com/rootbeeraddict/expertpads.html
Usable HWR in a slimmer case? Hopefully.

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From: =3D3D?iso-8859-1?Q?F=3D3DE1bio_Palma?=3D3D <newton.pda_at_terra.com.br>
Subject: Re: [NTLK] Newton Brasil?
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 17:45:31 -0200

It is a newton forum, where brazilian people talk about uor newts (but is
open to foregin people). A lot of interest things are talked about.

Regards,

F=3DDFbio Palma
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alexander Andrade Leao" <alexleao_at_mpcnet.com.br>
To: <newtontalk_at_newtontalk.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 6:03 PM
Subject: Re: [NTLK] Newton Brasil?

>
> Yep, this is a brazilian Newton group at Yahoo groups....
>
>
>
> Alex
>
>
>
> > From: James Elliott <rootbeeraddict_at_yahoo.com>
> > Reply-To: newtontalk_at_newtontalk.net
> > Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 13:47:38 -0500
> > To: NewtonTalk List <newtontalk_at_newtontalk.net>
> > Subject: [NTLK] Newton Brasil?
> >
> >
> > Can anyone give me some info on this?
> > http://br.groups.yahoo.com/group/newtonbrasil/
> >
> > -James
> >
> > The James Elliott Newton Site:
> > http://www.geocities.com/rootbeeraddict/newton.html
> > Is that a Newton in your pocket, or are you happy to see me?
> >
> > --
> > This is the Newtontalk mailinglist - http://www.newtontalk.net
> > To unsubscribe or manage: visit the above link or
> > mailto:newtontalk-request_at_newtontalk.net?Subject=3D3Dunsubscribe
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> This is the Newtontalk mailinglist - http://www.newtontalk.net
> To unsubscribe or manage: visit the above link or
> mailto:newtontalk-request_at_newtontalk.net?Subject=3D3Dunsubscribe
>
>
>

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Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 14:55:07 -0500
From: James Elliott <rootbeeraddict_at_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [NTLK] Newton Brasil?

Okay. Thanks for the info.

-James

>It is a newton forum, where brazilian people talk about uor newts (but is
>open to foregin people). A lot of interest things are talked about.
>
>Regards,
>
>F=3D3DE1bio Palma
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Alexander Andrade Leao" <alexleao_at_mpcnet.com.br>
>To: <newtontalk_at_newtontalk.net>
>Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 6:03 PM
>Subject: Re: [NTLK] Newton Brasil?
>
>
> >
> > Yep, this is a brazilian Newton group at Yahoo groups....
> >
> >
> >
> > Alex
> >
> >
> >
> > > From: James Elliott <rootbeeraddict_at_yahoo.com>
> > > Reply-To: newtontalk_at_newtontalk.net
> > > Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 13:47:38 -0500
> > > To: NewtonTalk List <newtontalk_at_newtontalk.net>
> > > Subject: [NTLK] Newton Brasil?
> > >
> > >
> > > Can anyone give me some info on this?
> > > http://br.groups.yahoo.com/group/newtonbrasil/
> > >
> > > -James

Screen Protection for Cheapskates
http://www.geocities.com/rootbeeraddict/screenprotectors.html
Info and templates to fit all your screen protecting needs

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Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 13:29 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: [NTLK] Re - MICHIGAN NEWTONIA.
From: Woo Lee <vitcitylb_at_earthlink.net>

Dude! Our next meeting will be in Northridge this coming Friday, the 28
th. I've got four sur
I guess Martina(irishflyingdog_at_earthlink.net) is still having problems(or
still celebrating!). =3D20
BTW, I gotta ask ya about service in Cerritos area(562-860-5501)
Any NTLK'er is welcome to any of our meetings! 2nd. week of Jan. 2002
we'll meet at the Glendale AppleStore. Last week of Jan. 2002 we'll meet
at Eleu's in Santa Monica. Then 'maybe' the first or second week of Feb.
'02 we'll meet at Fuddrucker's in Pasadena???(Oh Lisa? Oh Jim?) ;-)

Merry Xmas & Hap.Newt.Year!
------------------
>Doh. I forgot that i can't send NeXT mail to y'all. Ok. I live in
Pasadena, =3D20
>I work for EarthLink, which is her ISP, and I am a DSL Master. So...if =
=3D
she
=3D20
>has issues, tell her to let me know or something :) I'd like to join the =
=3D
=3D20
>LANUG :)
>
>-Chris
------------------

---------------------
!ooW %-)
Pres. of Los Angeles Newton Users Group!
=3D20

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Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 17:28:21 -0800
Subject: Re: [NTLK] Re - MICHIGAN NEWTONIA.
From: Chris Chapman <pan1k_at_earthlink.net>

Hmm service in cerritos? :)
On Saturday, December 22, 2001, at 01:29 PM, Woo Lee wrote:

>
> Dude! Our next meeting will be in Northridge this coming Friday, the 28
> th. I've got four sur
> I guess Martina(irishflyingdog_at_earthlink.net) is still having=3D20
> problems(or
> still celebrating!).
> BTW, I gotta ask ya about service in Cerritos area(562-860-5501)
> Any NTLK'er is welcome to any of our meetings! 2nd. week of Jan. 2002
> we'll meet at the Glendale AppleStore. Last week of Jan. 2002 we'll=3D20=

> meet
> at Eleu's in Santa Monica. Then 'maybe' the first or second week =
of=3D20
> Feb.
> '02 we'll meet at Fuddrucker's in Pasadena???(Oh Lisa? Oh Jim?) ;-)
>
> Merry Xmas & Hap.Newt.Year!
> ------------------
>> Doh. I forgot that i can't send NeXT mail to y'all. Ok. I live in
> Pasadena,
>> I work for EarthLink, which is her ISP, and I am a DSL Master. =3D
So...if=3D20
>> she
>
>> has issues, tell her to let me know or something :) I'd like to =
join=3D20
>> the
>> LANUG :)
>>
>> -Chris
> ------------------
>
> ---------------------
> !ooW %-)
> Pres. of Los Angeles Newton Users Group!
>
>
> --
> This is the Newtontalk mailinglist - http://www.newtontalk.net
> To unsubscribe or manage: visit the above link or
> mailto:newtontalk-request_at_newtontalk.net?Subject=3D3Dunsubscribe
>

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Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 17:30:04 -0800
Subject: [NTLK] Contrast adjustment based on temperature:
From: Chris Chapman <pan1k_at_earthlink.net>

Here's the program that adjusts your contrast based on the current =3D
temp.=3D20
Works pretty good for me anyhow.

http://www.logictools.de/newton/freeware/autolcd/autolcd.sit.hqx

-Chris

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Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 00:30:53 -0600
Subject: [NTLK] LOTR revision?
From: esworp <esworp_at_mac.com>

Wasn't there going to be a higher-quality version of the LOTR series=3D20
available for download from http://wwwcrosswinds.net/~marcusah/ at =
one=3D20
time?? whatever happened to hat, and why is that a bogus url?

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Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 00:44:29 -0600
Subject: Re: [NTLK] newtontalk Digest V1 #426
From: Paul Nuernberger <pen1_at_spiff.net>

I'm guessing that our list server software has stopped rejecting this sort
of thing all of a sudden ??

Paul Nuernberger

> From: "Chris Georges" <chrisg_at_klabin.com>
> Reply-To: newtontalk_at_newtontalk.net
> Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 22:33:35 -0800
> To: <newtontalk_at_newtontalk.net>
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] newtontalk Digest V1 #426
>=20
> Thank you for your e-mail message of this date. I will be out of the =3D
> office through January 3, 2002. I occasionally will check my e-mail, but =
=3D
> if you need urgently to contact me, please dial my cel phone at =
818-367-620=3D
> 0.
>=20
> Thanks, and Happy New Year!
>=20
> Chris
>=20
>>>> newtontalk 12/23/01 01:33 >>>
>=20
> newtontalk Digest Sat, 22 Dec 2001 Volume: 01 Issue: 426
>=20
> In This Issue:
> [NTLK] Sorry
> [NTLK] Newton Brasil?
> Re: [NTLK] Newton Brasil?
> Re: [NTLK] Newton Brasil?
> Re: [NTLK] Newton Brasil?
>=20
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------

<<< SNIP >>>

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Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 09:32:11 +0000
From: Paul Younger <p.younger_at_btinternet.com>
Subject: [NTLK] eMate carry/storage case

Hi

Just wondering if anyone could recommend a carry/storage case for the=20
eMate 300 - mine's getting on a bit know and I want to ensure that it=20
remains in tip top condition. Does anybody use a case which is till=20
available?

Thanks in advance
Paul Younger

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From: ThisOlNewt_at_aol.com
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 08:43:42 EST
Subject: [NTLK] These sites are gone

The following Newton sites have disapeared.
Anyone know where they are. Are the webmasters on the list?
Help is appriciated

Newton and Linux mini-HOWTO =20
Newtonlink =20
PDA.ru =20

Keep the Green
Rich
---------------------------------------------------------------------------=

---

---- This Old Newt http://www.thisoldnewt.com/index2.html Home of the "Son of Ultimate Newton."=20 The coolest searchable Newton Links on the planet =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D

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From: "Joris Baeten" <jorisbaeten_at_hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [NTLK] my newton's got high fever ! Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 15:27:32 +0100

The Newton calculates the temperature by looking at the battery = tension.=20 Though every site says that this trick only works with the mp2000, my = eMate=20 is guessing the temperature also quite good. Did you maybe replace your=20 original Newton battery? Joris

>From: Denis Krasnov <dkrasnov_at_nyc.rr.com> >Reply-To: newtontalk_at_newtontalk.net >To: "newtontalk newtontalk.net" <newtontalk_at_newtontalk.net> >Subject: [NTLK] my newton's got high fever ! >Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 02:29:04 -0500 > > >Something is amiss with the thermometer... > >My MP2000U is showing ambient T=3D 32 C and battery T=3D 32 C (89.6 F) >Ambient and battery are always the same, and they are usually this high. > >I am not a doctor but according to this it has high fever ! > >What is the temperature your Newton showing ? >Is it normal ? >Is it curable ? > >Does anyone know where the thermometer is or how does it work ? > >Cheers, Denis > > >-- >This is the Newtontalk mailinglist - http://www.newtontalk.net >To unsubscribe or manage: visit the above link or > mailto:newtontalk-request_at_newtontalk.net?Subject=3Dunsubscribe >

_________________________________________________________________ Chat on line met vrienden en probeer MSN Messenger uit:=20 http://messenger.msn.nl/

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From: Templarsog1_at_aol.com Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 10:06:56 EST Subject: [NTLK] UMP2000 Contrast

Is it unusual to have to frequently have to adjust the contrast on an=20 UMP2000? Also, when I am adjusting the contrast the whole screen = contrast=20 tends to get a little hinky with sort of dark lines, if you know what I = mean.=20 This only happens when trying to adjust the contrast. Is there anything = to=20 stabilize this?

William

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From: "Joseph Lax" <joeylax_at_hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [NTLK] soccer newton book%26In-Reply-To=3D%26lt;F86PeSHvnNFmXN= Z60A80 Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 08:08:45 -0800

I regret to inform you that I will not be distributing the laws of the = game=20 newton book as I planned.

It was recently pointed out to me that FIFA has strict prohibition of=20 reproduction / translation in whole or part in any manner without=20 permission. I will seek permission before going any further.

I know, it seems like a long shot to get FIFA on my tail. Especially = given=20 the fact that you can put the PDF on your notebook no problem. But I do = not=20 want to take any chance what-so-ever. Sorry to get your hopes up. The = PDF=20 is available at fifa.com

Creating newton books is easy - The only part that is difficult is = getting=20 the txt so you do not have to type from scratch. If you look on the web = you=20 may still find sources of the txt for yourself. I am not being coy here. I can not point you in any specific direction. = I=20 just know from experience that stuff on the web lingers for quite a = long=20 time, even when the stuff is pulled from the original website.

Quite a few indoor facilities have the modifications to FIFA laws posted = on=20 their websites.

_________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.=

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Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 12:02:15 -0500 From: Brian Pearce <bpearce_at_cloud9.net> Subject: Re: [NTLK] xerox

> You know... Given all the talk about stuff that SJ supposedly 'lifted' = from > PARC when the Mac started, one could speculate that he had a pretty good > idea Xerox would prevail and THAT'S why he's never tried to pick up Palm = (as > many have urged him to).

I've read that these concepts that were supposedly discovered (as the = story goes) by Steve Jobs at Xeros PARC and were brought to Lisa (and = later to the Macintosh) were *already* in various stages of development at = Apple; bringing Steve Jobs to see them in action at PARC was a way for the = development teams to sell him on using them. (Other Apple employees had = toured the PARC facilities and seen demonstrations of the technologies = there long before Steve Jobs was brought along.)

It isn't so much that he discovered them at PARC, as he discovered them to = be *useful* at PARC. =20 BRIAN/bpearce_at_cloud9.net

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Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 12:16:43 -0500 Subject: [NTLK] About System Patches From: Stephanie Maks <steph_at_maksystems.com>

Hi All,

I was tinkering around with my MP2100 yesterday, doing things I probably shouldn't, and managed to blow away the system patch in it. Formerly, it displayed in the memory info: 2.1 (717260) -1

And after I messed it up, it displayed: 2.1 (717006) -0 in the same spot. I read in the FAQ about the system patches, and in the Readme that accompanied the 717260 download from Apple, it said that the MP2100 = shipped with 717260 installed. But I guess they actually just installed the patch at the factory, as opposed to having new ROM chips.

Another thing I noticed which was interesting (to me at least) was that = the system RAM info was Higher under 717006 than it was 717260. With 717260 = the memory info slip displays something in the range of 3980K of System Ram. But under 717006 it said 4042K of System Ram (Or something in that area, I didn't write it down. It was over 4000 though.) So the System Patch = loads itself into DRAM I guess? Or writes into the Flash, but on restart loads into RAM?

One other thing I have noticed, is that the heap displayed by Avi's = Backdrop and Dashboard has dropped from around 400K down to about 150K. Though as = I said, the indicated System Ram still shows the full 4MB. Everything still works, I did a restore from a card, and the card I keep all my packages on works fine.

Now a question about the system patches. I have read that there was a = patch from Apple numbered 717246 that was identical to the 717260 patch, except that supposedly it displayed '(c) Newton Inc' instead of '(c) Apple Computers'. People appearantly wanted to use that patch instead of 260 so their Message Pad could say '(c)Newton Inc'. So here's my silly question. Where does it say (c) Apple Computers? Not in the memory info. Not in = the extras drawer. I don't have the 717246 patch, though I've been scouring = the web for it. I'm just wondering if it makes any difference, considering I can't figure out where the (c) Apple.. message is to begin with.

-Stephanie

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Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 11:28:01 -0600 Subject: [NTLK] Newton 2001 From: Philip Katz <pkatt_at_mac.com>

I'm looking at getting a Newton. I was looking at the 130, but upon=20 checking on eBay, I saw that a 2100 is going for the same price I was=20 going to pay for a 130. What I'm asking is whether a 2100 for around=20 $249, including a leather case, 32mb card, and a modem and cables, is a=20 good deal or not. Also, are there any specific ebay sellers I should = buy=20 from? Thanks.

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Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 12:34:44 -0500 Subject: Re: [NTLK] Newton 2001 From: Chet Johns <tcjohns_at_home.com>

If it's in good shape, that's a pretty good price, as I know I paid more = in the last year for a 2100 with no memory card or modem. I'd definitely go = for the 2100 over the 130 but that's just my opinion.

Chet Johns

On 12/23/01 12:28 PM, "Philip Katz" <pkatt_at_mac.com> wrote:

> I'm looking at getting a Newton. I was looking at the 130, but upon > checking on eBay, I saw that a 2100 is going for the same price I was > going to pay for a 130. What I'm asking is whether a 2100 for around > $249, including a leather case, 32mb card, and a modem and cables, is a > good deal or not. Also, are there any specific ebay sellers I should buy > from? Thanks. >=20

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Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 09:35:34 -0800 From: "James N. Johnston" <jimthej_at_mac.com> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Newton 2001

on 12/23/01 9:28 AM, Philip Katz at pkatt_at_mac.com wrote:

> I'm looking at getting a Newton. I was looking at the 130, but upon > checking on eBay, I saw that a 2100 is going for the same price I was > going to pay for a 130. What I'm asking is whether a 2100 for around > $249, including a leather case, 32mb card, and a modem and cables, is a > good deal or not. Also, are there any specific ebay sellers I should buy > from? Thanks. >=20 Yes, Check the prices at This Ol Newt. Used price guide. http://hometown.aol.com/thisolnewt/index2.html

Jim Johnston Teacher Mac Smacker Newton User

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Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 17:44:28 +0000 Subject: [NTLK] Keyboard From: Chris Dunderdale <chrisdunderdale_at_btopenworld.com>

Hi there. I am after an Newton Keyboard for a Newton 2100 and a Leather case for one. Can any body help me out?

Chris

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Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 18:55:04 +0100 From: HarryHirsch <newton_at_auktionline.com> Subject: [NTLK] newtonlink linux mandrake perl 5.6.1

I tried to install the newtonlink software,

but I got this failure:

Missing braces on N{} at /usr/lib/newtonlink-1.29/GetNotes.pl line 286 ... Missing braces on N{} at /usr/lib/newtonlink-1.29/GetNotes.pl line 288

any Ideas=3D3F=3D3F

HarryHirsch

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Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 13:51:33 -0500 Subject: [NTLK] FS: Upgraded eMate on eBay From: Brad Tober <newtontalk_at_mac.com>

To anyone who was interested before:

<http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D1311608066>

It ends Christmas Day.

Thanks! Brad Tober

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